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(27/06/2018 21:49)mbonwick Wrote: [ -> ]Given the purpose of the B9TL/Geminis is to replace the closed top ALX400s left in the fleet, I'd say it's a fairly safe bet that it will be the early Enviro400s that depart Chester

Seeing as the B9TLs are are Ex First Wigan how many Ex First Wigan vehicles do Stagecoach still own regardless if they are withdrawn, training vehicles or in service (I can put this bit in the Manchester thread if too off topic) as well as First Chester and Wirral’s (excluding the B7RLEs)

According to CWACC, Stagecoach have the following changes from 2nd September

23-NEW ROUTE- Hail and ride from Chester to Mollington (2 trips)
16- reverting to pre summer timetable (since when did Chester do summer timetables? I thought that was a Liverpool and Manchester thing)
5/5A - minor timetable changes (thank god. The service is hardly carrying anyone anymore due to its reliability).
51- timetable amendments
605- extended to Mollington (possibly in preparation for the S1 being removed)
X2- timetable amendments
X8- timetable amendments Inc extra trips on Sundays
C56 withdrawn
5- extended to Farndon/Wrexham (to my knowledge this will be numbered the 5A though to ease confusion).
8/9- timetable amendments and some trips extended to Guilden Sutton (anyone know if the extensions are Saturday only or are Arrwoebrook dropping that bit on the 26?)

Some very very interesting changes here. I can't wait to see them in action.

It's a shame the C56 is getting Withdrawn as it seemed to do alright with D.Jones

If I understand correctly from what others have said, the Huntingdon 5 will see some journeys extended and possibly renumbered to cover the withdrawn C56.
Have to say though, I've never known an area to have so many duplicated service numbers as the Chester area - what with three different service 1s, a couple of different 5s, soon to be 5As possibly too, as well as the different 9's and maybe others.

(12/07/2018 14:54)T42 PVM Wrote: [ -> ]It's a shame the C56 is getting Withdrawn as it seemed to do alright with D.Jones

The C56 is not getting withdrawn withdrawn. It is going to be added to the Service 5 & Renumhered 5A

Thanks guys!

(12/07/2018 12:07)iMarkeh Wrote: [ -> ]According to CWACC, Stagecoach have the following changes from 2nd September

23-NEW ROUTE- Hail and ride from Chester to Mollington (2 trips)
16- reverting to pre summer timetable (since when did Chester do summer timetables? I thought that was a Liverpool and Manchester thing)
5/5A - minor timetable changes (thank god. The service is hardly carrying anyone anymore due to its reliability).
51- timetable amendments
605- extended to Mollington (possibly in preparation for the S1 being removed)
X2- timetable amendments
X8- timetable amendments Inc extra trips on Sundays
C56 withdrawn
5- extended to Farndon/Wrexham (to my knowledge this will be numbered the 5A though to ease confusion).
8/9- timetable amendments and some trips extended to Guilden Sutton (anyone know if the extensions are Saturday only or are Arrwoebrook dropping that bit on the 26?)

Some very very interesting changes here. I can't wait to see them in action.

My guess that the new 23 journeys are positioning journeys for thr new 605

(11/07/2018 22:31)darylyates17 Wrote: [ -> ]Seeing as the B9TLs are are Ex First Wigan how many Ex First Wigan vehicles do Stagecoach still own regardless if they are withdrawn, training vehicles or in service (I can put this bit in the Manchester thread if too off topic) as well as First Chester and Wirral’s (excluding the B7RLEs)

Wigan:
21238 disposal MX05 CKN Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21239 disposal MX55 HHN Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21240 disposal MX55 NWF Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21242 disposal MX55 FGO Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21243 disposal MX55 FGV Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21244 disposal MX55 FGZ Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21245 disposal MX55 FHA Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21247 disposal MX55 FHG Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
25315 Wigan YJ12 MYM Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
25316 Sharston YJ12 MYZ Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
25317 Sharston YJ12 MZE Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
25318 Wigan YJ12 MZG Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
25319 Middleton YJ12 MZL Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
29724 reserve VX05 LWA BMC 110FE BMC B55F 2005
29811 Wigan FJ55 XLH Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2005
29812 Wigan FJ55 XLK Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2005
29813 Wigan FJ55 XLL Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2005
29814 Wigan FX56 AHU Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B67FL 2006
29815 Wigan NX07 DAO Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2007
29816 Wigan NX07 DAU Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2007
29817 Sharston FX57 LKM Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2008
29818 Wigan PN09 BWZ Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B67FL 2009
29819 Wigan PN09 BXA Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B67FL 2009

16951 reserve MX07 BVA Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16952 reserve MX07 BVC Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16953 reserve MX07 BVD Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16954 reserve MX07 BVE Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16956 reserve MX07 BVG Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16957 reserve MX07 BVJ Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16958 reserve MX07 BVK Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16959 reserve MX07 BVL Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007

21248 Grimsby MX06 VOT Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2006


Chester:
21256 Chester YJ09 FWD Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21257 Chester YJ09 FWE Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21258 Chester YJ09 FWF Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21259 Chester YJ09 FWG Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21260 Chester YJ09 FWH Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21261 Chester YJ09 FWK Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21262 Chester DK09 GXW Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
28540 Chester X266 USH Scania L94UB Wright Axcess Floline B43F 2001
28541 Gillmoss X271 USH Scania L94UB Wright Axcess Floline B43F 2001
29884 disposal CX02 ECT Bluebird AARE Bluebird B60F 2002
21263 Grimsby DK09 GXX Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21264 Grimsby DK09 GXY Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21265 Grimsby DK09 GXZ Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21266 Grimsby DK09 GYA Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21267 Grimsby DK09 GYB Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21268 Grimsby DK09 GYC Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21269 Grimsby DK09 GYD Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21270 Grimsby DK09 GYE Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21271 Grimsby DK09 GYF Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21272 Grimsby DK09 GYG Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21273 Grimsby DK09 GYH Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21274 Grimsby DK09 GYJ Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21275 Grimsby DK09 GYN Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009


Think that's all the ex-First stock and current locations...

(12/07/2018 16:19)Nwales Bus Wrote: [ -> ]My guess that the new 23 journeys are positioning journeys for thr new 605

I never thought of that. I thought it was just a tender to serve Mollington. When the 22 stopped serving the village, people weren't happy so the council compromised with the bus stops at the golf course (which lets' face it are no good for most people).

Looking at the registration, it would seen it is commercial so probably is as you say, positioning but that is weird given that the 605 starts and ends at the depot. Stagecoach don't often do positioning moves in the sense of new routes. They do normally do positioning using existing routes (for example if they ran extras on the 5 and 9 to get buses to and from the depot rather than running dead into town). If they use the 23 as a positioning move, it makes me wonder why they aren't doing a 41W from the depot into Town, a route which a lot more buses run dead. The fact is is Hail and Ride instantly says to me it is for the village as well and not positioning as Parkgate Road has bus stops.

(12/07/2018 17:28)mbonwick Wrote: [ -> ]Wigan:
21238 disposal MX05 CKN Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21239 disposal MX55 HHN Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21240 disposal MX55 NWF Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21242 disposal MX55 FGO Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21243 disposal MX55 FGV Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21244 disposal MX55 FGZ Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21245 disposal MX55 FHA Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
21247 disposal MX55 FHG Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2005
25315 Wigan YJ12 MYM Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
25316 Sharston YJ12 MYZ Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
25317 Sharston YJ12 MZE Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
25318 Wigan YJ12 MZG Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
25319 Middleton YJ12 MZL Optare Versa V1210H Optare B57F 2012
29724 reserve VX05 LWA BMC 110FE BMC B55F 2005
29811 Wigan FJ55 XLH Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2005
29812 Wigan FJ55 XLK Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2005
29813 Wigan FJ55 XLL Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2005
29814 Wigan FX56 AHU Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B67FL 2006
29815 Wigan NX07 DAO Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2007
29816 Wigan NX07 DAU Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2007
29817 Sharston FX57 LKM Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B63FL 2008
29818 Wigan PN09 BWZ Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B67FL 2009
29819 Wigan PN09 BXA Iveco Scolabus 150E24 Vehixel B67FL 2009

16951 reserve MX07 BVA Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16952 reserve MX07 BVC Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16953 reserve MX07 BVD Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16954 reserve MX07 BVE Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16956 reserve MX07 BVG Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16957 reserve MX07 BVJ Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16958 reserve MX07 BVK Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007
16959 reserve MX07 BVL Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F 2007

21248 Grimsby MX06 VOT Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B43F 2006


Chester:
21256 Chester YJ09 FWD Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21257 Chester YJ09 FWE Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21258 Chester YJ09 FWF Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21259 Chester YJ09 FWG Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21260 Chester YJ09 FWH Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21261 Chester YJ09 FWK Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
21262 Chester DK09 GXW Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban B44F 2009
28540 Chester X266 USH Scania L94UB Wright Axcess Floline B43F 2001
28541 Gillmoss X271 USH Scania L94UB Wright Axcess Floline B43F 2001
29884 disposal CX02 ECT Bluebird AARE Bluebird B60F 2002
21263 Grimsby DK09 GXX Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21264 Grimsby DK09 GXY Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21265 Grimsby DK09 GXZ Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21266 Grimsby DK09 GYA Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21267 Grimsby DK09 GYB Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21268 Grimsby DK09 GYC Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21269 Grimsby DK09 GYD Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21270 Grimsby DK09 GYE Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21271 Grimsby DK09 GYF Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21272 Grimsby DK09 GYG Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21273 Grimsby DK09 GYH Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21274 Grimsby DK09 GYJ Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009
21275 Grimsby DK09 GYN Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 B44F 2009


Think that's all the ex-First stock and current locations...

Thanks a lot I knew Gillmoss had an ex First Scania trainer as Im sure ive seen it before