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(22/12/2016 21:05)buses7675 Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder is this as the deckers have been so useful - they often have to alter the allocations when there is football on to keep the deckers on what are likely to be the busiest routes. With yet more due this should make it possible to have deckers on such football routes but without other routes losing out as such when this happens in the same way.

It's excellent news...I suspect large orders for single deckers will be a thing of the past as it seems to be with Arriva.....
(22/12/2016 20:45)SL64 JDZ Wrote: [ -> ]There's not really any places in Merseyside for Stagecoach to expand

The amount of double deckers in the Stagecoach M&SL fleet has increased significantly recently. No less than 65 Enviro400s were ordered for Gillmoss in the 2016/17 order - that's an excellent investment and it provides a massive increase in capacity in Liverpool on some of its busiest routes

It is excellent news about the new deckers. As far as consolidation is concerned in Manchester all but a couple of independents have disappeared whereas in Merseyside there are still a number of potential icandidates for Stagecach in addition to Halton and Warrington. You think about Avon, Cumfybus, HTL and Hattons for example maybe the CMA might have been the hurdle.
(24/12/2016 10:24)rod_259 Wrote: [ -> ]It is excellent news about the new deckers. As far as consolidation is concerned in Manchester all but a couple of independents have disappeared whereas in Merseyside there are still a number of potential icandidates for Stagecach in addition to Halton and Warrington. You think about Avon, Cumfybus, HTL and Hattons for example maybe the CMA might have been the hurdle.
There's no point in taking over Cumfybus or HTL as they mainly operate contracted services. In theory you could take them over and lose most of your network just as quickly.

Stagecoach have tried multiple times to buy the Cheshire municipals, however neither will sell out to them.
Almost all of Avon's routes are also just diminished contracts so would not make profit under Stagecoach
Quite a few more Cambridge park & ride MMC'S present today, 10797/10798 in green, 10802 in grey, 10803/10805 in purple & 10810 in orange, at least another orange, grey and purple present, pics to follow later.
(22/12/2016 20:45)SL64 JDZ Wrote: [ -> ]There's not really any places in Merseyside for Stagecoach to expand

The amount of double deckers in the Stagecoach M&SL fleet has increased significantly recently. No less than 65 Enviro400s were ordered for Gillmoss in the 2016/17 order - that's an excellent investment and it provides a massive increase in capacity in Liverpool on some of its busiest routes
.merry Christmas to all at dart slf forum.
Just wondering if any one has a list of the Cambridge Enviro400 MMCs at are going on loan to stagecoach Liverpool and RF AND CHESTER THANKS
(24/12/2016 19:09)PAUL2511 Wrote: [ -> ].merry Christmas to all at dart slf forum.
Just wondering if any one has a list of the Cambridge Enviro400 MMCs at are going on loan to stagecoach Liverpool and RF AND CHESTER THANKS

They'll just be going to Rock Ferry IIRC. They're as follows:

10796 - SN66 VZU
10797 - SN66 VZV
10798 - SN66 ???
10799 - SN66 WAJ
10800 - SN66 VZZ
10801 - SN66 ???
10802 - SN66 WAU
10803 - SN66 ???
10804 - SN66 ???
10805 - SN66 WAO
10806 - SN66 ???
10807 - SN66 ???
10808 - SN66 ???
10809 - SN66 ???
10810 - SN66 WBG

Merry Christmas Paul Smile
10796 SN66 VZU
10797 SN66 VZV
10798 SN66 VZW
10799 SN66 VZX
10800 SN66 VZY
10801 SN66 VZZ
10802 SN66 WAA
10803 SN66 WAE
10804 SN66 WAJ
10805 SN66 WAO
10806 SN66 WAU
10807 SN66 WBD
10808 SN66 WBE
10809 SN66 WBF
10810 SN66 WBG
(24/12/2016 19:25)SL64 JDZ Wrote: [ -> ]They'll just be going to Rock Ferry IIRC. They're as follows:

10796 - SN66 VZU
10797 - SN66 VZV
10798 - SN66 ???
10799 - SN66 WAJ
10800 - SN66 VZZ
10801 - SN66 ???
10802 - SN66 WAU
10803 - SN66 ???
10804 - SN66 ???
10805 - SN66 WAO
10806 - SN66 ???
10807 - SN66 ???
10808 - SN66 ???
10809 - SN66 ???
10810 - SN66 WBG

Merry Christmas Paul Smile

Thanks
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