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From Lime Street


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(Via Huyton)
xx:00 Stations to Warrington BQ via Earlestown
xx:15 Stations to St. Helens Cen & Wigan NW
xx:29 Stations to Manchester Airport & Crewe
xx:36 Huyton, St. Helens Cen., Wigan NW then stations to Blackpool North
xx:45 Stations to St. Helens Cen & Wigan NW

Just noticed that it looks like this is missing a Manchester Victoria stopper or will all stations be covered by the Manchester Airport/Crewe service. I am presuming that TPE will be stopping at a few key stations with the diverted Scarborough service.
The 0614 from Broad Green to Lime Sreet (ex St Helens Central) was yesterday morning 156444 of Heaton Depot. This unit is now in the new livery and has PIS fitted. The lady speaking on the PIS has a Geordie accent!
319431 has arrived at Allerton Depot. It was hauled in by 47812.
It is in the new Northern livery.
The 1255 service from LIV to MCO is usually booked as 2xclass 142. When I travelled on that service a couple of weeks ago it was booked as 2xclass 150.

Does that mean that the pacers start to retire?
(16/06/2017 06:11)boby32 Wrote: [ -> ]The 1255 service from LIV to MCO is usually booked as 2xclass 142. When I travelled on that service a couple of weeks ago it was booked as 2xclass 150.

Does that mean that the pacers start to retire?

No,not yet because something is meant to be 2x142s doesn't mean it will be
(09/06/2017 04:03)childwallblues Wrote: [ -> ]319431 has arrived at Allerton Depot. It was hauled in by 47812.
It is in the new Northern livery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzLMUiSD8kI
(16/06/2017 06:31)Gordon V Wrote: [ -> ]No,not yet because something is meant to be 2x142s doesn't mean it will be

Indeed, especially following disruption or a unit failure. Northern also swap diagrams around when special events are on and sometimes they don't use the booked type of traction for no obvious reason.
(16/06/2017 06:11)boby32 Wrote: [ -> ]The 1255 service from LIV to MCO is usually booked as 2xclass 142. When I travelled on that service a couple of weeks ago it was booked as 2xclass 150.

Does that mean that the pacers start to retire?

There's at least another 12-18 months before the Pacers will start being retired
TfGM on the proposed May 2018 changes (many postponed from December 2017): https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/..._timetable
(16/06/2017 14:20)Y474 KNF Wrote: [ -> ]There's at least another 12-18 months before the Pacers will start being retired

The schedule for class 142 withdrawal is:
10 vehicles released 10.11.2018
38 vehicles released 08.12.2018
18 vehicles released 05.1.2019
20 vehicles released 02.2.2019
16 vehicles released 02.3.2019
2 vehicles released 31.3.2019
10 vehicles released 27.4.2019
4 vehicles released 25.5.2019
12 vehicles released 22.6.2019
8 vehicles released 20.7.2019
8 vehicles released 17.8.2019
8 vehicles released 14.9.2019
4 vehicles released 12.10.2019

(N.B. when DfT say vehicle they mean carriage not train.)

Obviously that might change if new/cascaded trains arrive late.
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