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(22/02/2013 12:27)V671 DVU Wrote: [ -> ]Been informed that Green Lane Cadet 2551 is out on the 495 today, keep an eye out for that horrible bus!

Seems to be a different bus every day coming as cover for laird streets demic vehicles.
(22/02/2013 12:27)V671 DVU Wrote: [ -> ]Been informed that Green Lane Cadet 2551 is out on the 495 today, keep an eye out for that horrible bus!

Sadly just 2442 and 2449 on the 495 with 2479 and another Cadet which I couldn't identify on the 492.
(22/02/2013 15:51)R557 ABA Wrote: [ -> ]
(22/02/2013 12:27)V671 DVU Wrote: [ -> ]Been informed that Green Lane Cadet 2551 is out on the 495 today, keep an eye out for that horrible bus!

Sadly just 2442 and 2449 on the 495 with 2479 and another Cadet which I couldn't identify on the 492.

Could well have been a one day loan and gone back home like 3313? Guess all will be revealed soon, haven't saw 2551 out on GL routes in Huyton personally but that's only a small chunk of a lot of routes.
Things were quite cramped to say the least on the 471 this afternoon where 2435 made an appearance.
People were left behind in Birkenhead bus stn and outside the asda.
Could well have been a one day loan and gone back home like 3313? Guess all will be revealed soon, haven't saw 2551 out on GL routes in Huyton personally but that's only a small chunk of a lot of routes.
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Been on 2551 on the long 6 a few times,did not seem to be that bad comparing it with
others at GL
(22/02/2013 15:51)R557 ABA Wrote: [ -> ]
(22/02/2013 12:27)V671 DVU Wrote: [ -> ]Been informed that Green Lane Cadet 2551 is out on the 495 today, keep an eye out for that horrible bus!

Sadly just 2442 and 2449 on the 495 with 2479 and another Cadet which I couldn't identify on the 492.

2417 is the other cadet on the 492
(22/02/2013 16:13)N271CKB Wrote: [ -> ]Things were quite cramped to say the least ok the 472 this afternoon where 2435 made an appearance.
People were left behind in Birkenhead bus stn and outside the asda.

That happens frequently on the 471/472, I was on Stagecoach YN04 GNU on it last week, came in from Liverpool with a good standing load, I was lucky enough to get on it whilst the 10 or so passengers behind me at Birkenhead Bus Station couldn't get on, there where people standing all the way from the back to the front doors making boarding and alighting difficult for people hence it never stopped to pick passengers up until it got to Arrowe Park Hispital but people where alighting at nearly every stop though.
(22/02/2013 16:41)R557 ABA Wrote: [ -> ]
(22/02/2013 16:13)N271CKB Wrote: [ -> ]Things were quite cramped to say the least ok the 472 this afternoon where 2435 made an appearance.
People were left behind in Birkenhead bus stn and outside the asda.

That happens frequently on the 471/472, I was on Stagecoach YN04 GNU on it last week, came in from Liverpool with a good standing load, I was lucky enough to get on it whilst the 10 or so passengers behind me at Birkenhead Bus Station couldn't get on, there where people standing all the way from the back to the front doors making boarding and alighting difficult for people hence it never stopped to pick passengers up until it got to Arrowe Park Hispital but people where alighting at nearly every stop though.

This needs deckers and to be honest the the arriva section needs to be split from the 407, so the deckers arent swanning up to moreton when the Heswall service sounds like it needs to be deckers contrary to certain elements of this forum saying it doesnt .
(22/02/2013 17:34)wirralbus Wrote: [ -> ]This needs deckers and to be honest the the arriva section needs to be split from the 407, so the deckers arent swanning up to moreton when the Heswall service sounds like it needs to be deckers contrary to certain elements of this forum saying it doesnt .

Maybe the 471/472 is close to requiring deckers (I'm personally undecided) but the 407 simply doesn't and allocating them here is a complete waste.

The odd journey might be well utilised on the 471/472 but that isn't immediately a reason to give it a full allocation of deckers. Between the peaks the Heswall buses are very quiet from my observations.
(22/02/2013 12:27)V671 DVU Wrote: [ -> ]Been informed that Green Lane Cadet 2551 is out on the 495 today, keep an eye out for that horrible bus!
Yep - it arrived in Birkenhead Bus Station from the Liverpool direction at about 08:00-ish displaying "Birkenhead 495" (I was at the Chester-bound 1/2 stop), however it'd just left the bus station by the time that I got to by the travel centre to get a photo of it!

Two Cadets started their day on the 407/471/472 this morning, whilst X447 HJA (2447) started its day on the 464.
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