(25/10/2012 17:26)Garsty Wrote: [ -> ] (25/10/2012 17:17)LJ51 DDA Wrote: [ -> ]There Is Currently A Dennis Dart 10.7M Marshall Capital 76** Standing at the Back Of Caego, Noticed Today At 17:50!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I thought we had seen the back of these a few years ago!
Well they are more than welcome to use the Marshall Dart on Route 3, because since the withdrawal of the R and S reg 10.7M darts, the service has been a total joke.. Standing loads every day on MPD's is a total disgrace and just shows that Arriva don't care about it's customers.
(25/10/2012 18:54)N531 DWM Wrote: [ -> ] (25/10/2012 17:26)Garsty Wrote: [ -> ] (25/10/2012 17:17)LJ51 DDA Wrote: [ -> ]There Is Currently A Dennis Dart 10.7M Marshall Capital 76** Standing at the Back Of Caego, Noticed Today At 17:50!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I thought we had seen the back of these a few years ago!
Well they are more than welcome to use the Marshall Dart on Route 3, because since the withdrawal of the R and S reg 10.7M darts, the service has been a total joke.. Standing loads every day on MPD's is a total disgrace and just shows that Arriva don't care about it's customers.
I don’t disagree at all, but more cast-offs from Merseyside, which would go as one of the oldest at Wrexham, is not the way to do it. Wrexham could do with some more B36/38F vehicles, but looking at it most buses around that size are from around 2000.
7612, 7614 and 2312 are all present for scrapping, not service. A significant number more vehicles are also due to arrive for scrapping soon.
(25/10/2012 21:28)CX54 DKD Wrote: [ -> ]7612, 7614 and 2312 are all present for scrapping, not service. A significant number more vehicles are also due to arrive for scrapping soon.
Seems strange to send them to Wrexham to be stripped/scrapped? I know ones from the rest of Wales have come here before being collected, but seems odd to send them from East to West and then eventually back East!
It will be storage until book value drops far enough for the vehciles to be released for scrap value, or at least with reference to 7612 and 7614. The likes of Green Lane have very little free space, a precious commodity at the moment amongst the majority of the Liverpool and Greater Merseyside depots. There isn't the available space any more to have vehicles lying around for such periods, a contributing factors for the R-ABA's to leave in such a hurried fashion in order to free up valuable spaces in garages. At one time St Helens had quite the available outside space, as did Liverline. The closing of the latter and transfer of activities to St Helens had to have consequences somewhere on the line.
Couldnt a vacant strip of land on merseyside be rented as a temporary holding area for scrap buses? Think GTL used to do this as i remember seeing scrap titans and metrobuses on a piece of land in kirkby.
(26/10/2012 08:19)MX12CFE Wrote: [ -> ]Couldnt a vacant strip of land on merseyside be rented as a temporary holding area for scrap buses? Think GTL used to do this as i remember seeing scrap titans and metrobuses on a piece of land in kirkby.
Yes GTL had a small area of land just inside Kirkby Industrial Estate next to the petrol station where some scrap buses were kept, remember seeing 2472 there amongst others. Don't really see Arriva doing that sort of thing though.
Albeit 7 or 8 years ago now with regards to 2472 and its other companions on that piece of land in Kirkby, today's scene is very different. Its all a case of the environment. Its such laws and regulations which bring so much disturbance to breakers yards. Any such storage yard would have to be concreted to stop oil and other fluids leaking into the ground and potentially causing contamination. Plus, would this method really be cost effective simply to store redundant buses?
Speke has a few scrap darts as well parked up round the back out the way. 2317 is one of them plus MA1 is there
Not many modern companies would pay commercial rent just for land to store redundant equipment which is offering no return - it's just dead money. Far better to use evey available piece of space you already have first - even if that means reorganising yard layouts etc - and then to dispose of the stock as soon as it's commercially sensible to do so.