(18/01/2014 18:04)E208 WBG Wrote: [ -> ]be intresting to get A Marshall on the 500 hahah that will never happen (Now I say that it will end up on it)
TBH I suspect the Marshall prob will be on 80/80A, 81/81A or one of the Liverpool to Halewood's
You could just about say anything other than the 82 and 86 group of routes.
LJ51 DLV arrived this afternoon looking smart. Along with Marshall 7652. Good to see this back at Speke
Thanks Official, good to see another decker at Speke. Desperately needed.
I do wonder about the quality of work at Bus & Coach World, though. 4182 hasn't even had its Powerade advert removed from its London days, so is presumably still London Red under the advert. The DLP72 number stickers are still there beside the destination display, and there are no Arriva logos on the front end. Disappointing to see; let's just hope it's better internally, considering the initial six VLW cascades were to a poor standard outside and in when they first arrived.
I didn't notice it when I looked earlier but having looked again to view the advert mentioned by 507009 above, it appears the vehicle already has some panel damage below the right end of the advert. Unless that's occurred in the vehicles short period at Speke, a poor quality of work indeed.
Hope this appears on the 81 that I get to work, just to see what they are like. Pity these weren't refurbished in house by the guys at St Helens that do a fine job, I am a bit sceptical of the standard of Bus & Coach worlds work at times.
The contrast in refurbishments carried out by Arriva's highly skilled, qualified and experienced ladies and gentlemen at St Helens can be seen on numerous London cascades plus the Sapphire Enviro400's at Wrexham. 4403, being the pioneer of the Sapphire fleet in the United Kingdom, was the first finished to supreme levels as expected in-house at St Helens Works. 4405 is another which was completed in-house at St Helens again to the same high-standards. However, some of their counterparts done by the external contractor fail to reach these levels, in my opinion. It is clear certain areas haven't received the same levels of care and attention as the duo quoted above, for example some of the plastic/seam welding on various interior body panels plus the repainting of certain.
As 507009 highlights, the VLW-class examples fall well below the standard set by Arriva's own team of craftsmen. And, after seeing some of the current generation of DLP-class vehicles receiving attention again by the same contractor, it would appear to be a case of de-javu. Some may say these areas are small and insignificant, but such small things add up to make a big difference in the general appearance of a vehicle.
Is it that there is too much work for the St Helens works to do at the moment , hence the work going to outside contractors to allow the vehicles to come out in the shortest timeframe .
Looking at 4207 which got done at bus and coach world for st helens depot it looks ok but that one came back with a side advert on but once 4206 comes on the road il compare the 2 as at the moment 4207 looks fine.
