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(18/02/2015 03:38)YJ59 AZA Wrote: [ -> ]Drivers can transfer from the existing company to the new company of a service/contract (it could result in them being made redundant with their current employer as they're losing work).

"The TUPE regulations can apply when a company is sold, activities are outsourced, brought in-house, transferred or a contract for services is moved from one provider to another."
(Credit - http://www.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/d/r/Han...Guide.pdf)

That's interesting as I never knew it covered contract losses. Out of interest, outside of London how often do drivers actually transfer under TUPE following the loss of a contract?
Presumably all parties have to agree to the transfer.
(18/02/2015 10:19)Dentonian Wrote: [ -> ]Surprise, surprise; A click on the link comes up "Page not found". But surely, the principle is for TfL contracts where changes involve a large number of buses and maybe 50-100 drivers, and contracts change hands with 6 or more months notice.
And as I think has been touched on, what happens if the driver(s) transferring would not reach the standards required for employment by the company they are transferring to, or even, had been previously dismissed by their prospective "new" employer?

That's what I was thinking. Don't forget a lot of drivers who work for small independents such as Stotts are ex First/Stagecoach drivers who for whatever reason don't want to work for big corporate companies or sadly have been sacked. For example I've noticed a number of JPT drivers working for MCT. Presumably they left or didn't make the grade when Stagecoach took over so I can see operators actually being put off bidding for tenders if they came with a unruley driver lol.
Some changes mentioned above are now on VOSA today:

PC0003680/20 - FIRST MANCHESTER LTD T/A FIRST, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR
Variation Accepted: Operating between Manchester Piccadilly and Bury Interchange given service number 163/162 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.

PC0003680/88 - FIRST MANCHESTER LTD T/A FIRST, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR
Variation Accepted: Operating between MANCHESTER PICCADILLY and BURY INTERCHANGE given service number 135 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.
(18/02/2015 10:19)Dentonian Wrote: [ -> ]Surprise, surprise; A click on the link comes up "Page not found".
And what the hell is that supposed to mean?! The link added the bracket at the end of it...
http://www.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/d/r/Han...-Guide.pdf
PC1015222/104 - CUMFYBUS LTD, 178C CAMBRIDGE ROAD, SOUTHPORT, PR9 7LW
Variation Accepted: Operating between Walton Carisbrooke Road and Walton Carisbrooke Road given service number 101 effective from 19-Apr-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC1015222/123 - CUMFYBUS LTD, 178C CAMBRIDGE ROAD, SOUTHPORT, PR9 7LW
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: BOOTLE BUS STATION
Finish Point: BOOTLE BUS STATION
Via:
Service Number: 157
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 19-APR-2015
Other Details: MONDAY TO SUNDAY
PC0001141/409 - ARRIVA MERSEYSIDE LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bootle New Strand and Aigburth Vale given service number 68/68A/68E effective from 19-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/57 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Penrith and Windermere given service number 508 effective from 23-May-2015. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/234 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A STAGECOACH MERSEYSIDE, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
Variation Accepted: Operating between Preston and Longridge given service number 1/1A/S1 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/238 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A STAGECOACH MERSEYSIDE, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
Variation Accepted: Operating between Preston and Southport/Ormskirk given service number 2A/2 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/241 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A STAGECOACH MERSEYSIDE, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
Variation Accepted: Operating between Preston and Southport given service number X2 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/245 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A STAGECOACH MERSEYSIDE, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
Variation Accepted: Operating between Preston and Blackpool given service number 61/61C effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/246 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A STAGECOACH MERSEYSIDE, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
Variation Accepted: Operating between Preston and Blackpool given service number 68/68C effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/252 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A STAGECOACH MERSEYSIDE, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
Variation Accepted: Operating between Preston and Moor Nook given service number 9 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/253 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A STAGECOACH MERSEYSIDE, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
Variation Accepted: Operating between Southport and Liverpool given service number X2 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.
Hopefully this X2 Change is an improved Start time on Saturdays as currently theres only a 1 min connection for anyone wanting the X8, i did this once and both Services where late so was lucky to get there
Shouldnt the Preston to Southport part be 2X or is this being renumbered back to X2? Error or not?
(19/02/2015 15:28)Shaun821 Wrote: [ -> ]Shouldnt the Preston to Southport part be 2X or is this being renumbered back to X2? Error or not?

Its says between Southport and Liverpool, doesn't mention Southport and Preston.
Yes it does mate

PC1033334/241 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A STAGECOACH MERSEYSIDE, Gillmoss DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
Variation Accepted: Operating between Preston and Southport given service number X2 effective from 12-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.
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