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(28/06/2019 20:27)Bevan Price Wrote: [ -> ]But sadly still no option for anyone in the Warrington area who might want to spend a couple of hours visting Knutsford....

Ah yes, it's good that they now have a PDF too.
I definitely agree about that - if only that journey in the middle of the day went to Knutsford instead of High Legh.
Warrington to Knutsford would have to be via Altrincham or Northwich. Both quite long winded by bus. But really how much demand is there for a direct service between the two?

(28/06/2019 22:10)Valandil Wrote: [ -> ]Ah yes, it's good that they now have a PDF too.
I definitely agree about that - if only that journey in the middle of the day went to Knutsford instead of High Legh.
(29/06/2019 06:53)Rick Hunter Wrote: [ -> ]Warrington to Knutsford would have to be via Altrincham or Northwich. Both quite long winded by bus. But really how much demand is there for a direct service between the two?

I think the demand is more likely to be High Legh/Broomedge/Mere to Knutsford - it's possible now but shopping in Knutsford doesn't take 5 hours - a visit to Tatton Park Mansion and Gardens might take that long but that requires a bit of walking. Likewise it's possible to do Warrington-Knutsford return now but it requires a change at Lymm in both directions and for those with ENCTS passes it requires both outbound sections to be completed before free travel starts.

It sounds like the change is to accommodate those from High Legh/Broomedge/Mere who used to go to Altrincham on the 289 and would prefer to go to Altrincham over Warrington. Although, whether they'll want to do it if a change of bus is involved is a different question.

I suggested to Warrington's Own Buses that a number of pensioners from the Mobberley Road area of Knutsford weren't happy at the re-routing of the 88 bus via Longridge and if they extend the 47 at least as far as where Shaw Heath Post Office used to be they could get a few extra passengers - possibly even some being attracted to go to Warrington on a direct bus - but they didn't respond to the suggestion.
Pensioners dont bring in revenue. ENCTS has made so many routes not viable due to some counties having pitiful remuneration values.

If Labour get in will remuneration go up because something will have to change otherwise more services will be lost.
Registrations:

PC0001977/152 WARRINGTON BOROUGH TRANSPORT LTD, WILDERSPOOL CAUSEWAY, WARRINGTON, WA4 6PT From: Frodsham To: Northwich Via: Weaverhay, Acton Bridge Name or No.: 48 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 24 June 2019 Other details: Monday to Friday

PC0001977/149 WARRINGTON BOROUGH TRANSPORT LTD, WILDERSPOOL CAUSEWAY, WARRINGTON, WA4 6PT From: Warrington Interchange To: Walton Hall Via: Name or No.: X99 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 14 July 2019 End date: 14 July 2019
Other details: Operates 14/07/2019 only.

Variations:

PC0001977/87 WARRINGTON BOROUGH TRANSPORT LTD, WILDERSPOOL CAUSEWAY, WARRINGTON, WA4 6PT Operating between Warrington Bus Interchange and Lymm Chiurch given service number 47 / effective from 01 July 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0003680/149 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Manchester Piccadilly and Derker/Holts Estate given service number 81 / 81A effective from 21 July 2019. To amend Timetable.

Cancellations:

PC1033334/459 GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB Operating between Shotton and Mold given service number 109 / 109 / 209 effective from 01 September 2019.

Full document:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk...9.pdf..pdf
Registrations:

PC0004417/285 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Bolton, Interchange To: INTU Trafford centre. Via: Swinton, Eccles Name or No.: 2 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday, Daily

PC0004417/286 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Manchester, Shudehill Interchange. To: Bolton, Interchange. Via: Salford shopping centre, Pendlebury, Farnworth. Name or No.: 8 / Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday daily.

PC0004417/287 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Manchester Picadilly To: Bolton Interchange Via: Salford Shopping Centre, Swinton, Little Hulton, Royal Bolton Hospital Name or No.: 36 / Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday Daily

PC0004417/288 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Manchester, Picadilly To: Bolton, Interchange Via: Salford Shopping centre, Swinton, Walkden, Farnworth Name or No.: 37 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday Daily.

PC0004417/289 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: INTU Trafford Centre To: Farnworth bus station Via: Eccles, Walkden Name or No.: 68 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday daily.

PC0004417/290 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: 162 - Norden way/163 - Bury Interchange To: Manchester, Picadilly Via: Langley, Middleton Name or No.: 162 / 163 Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday Daily.

PC0004417/291 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Rochdale Interchange To: Bolton Interchange Via: Heywood, Bury, Breightmet Name or No.: 471 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019
Other details: Sunday to Saturday daily

PC0004417/292 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Bury Interchange To: Bury Interchange Via: Walmersley, Holcolmbe Brook Name or No.: 472 / 474 Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019
Other details: Sunday to Saturday daily

PC0004417/293 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Johnson fold To: Farnworth bus station Via: Brownlow fold, Bolton, Royal Bolton Hospital. Name or No.: 501 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019
Other details: Sunday to Saturday daily

PC0004417/294 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Bolton Interchange To: Bolton Interchange Via: Bradshaw Brow Name or No.: 507 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday Daily

PC0004417/295 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Bury Interchange To: Bolton Interchange Via: Walshaw, Withins, Breightmet, Leverhulme Park. Name or No.: 511 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Monday to Saturday, excluding bank holidays.

PC0004417/296 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Bury Interchange To: Bolton Interchange Via: Radcliffe, Little lever Name or No.: 524 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday daily

PC0004417/297 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Bolton Interchange To: Bolton Interchange Via: Withins Name or No.: 561 / 562 Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday daily

PC0004417/298 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Bolton Interchange To: Leigh Bus station Via: Atherton Name or No.: 582 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Sunday to Saturday daily

PC0004417/299 DIAMOND BUS (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, 221 DEEPDALE ROAD, PRESTON, PR1 6NY From: Manchester Picadilly To: Farnworth bus station Via: swinton, Walkden, Little Hulton, New Bury Name or No.: x39 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 11 August 2019 Other details: Monday to Friday, except bank holidays.

PC1145921/1 GARRETH MCALLISTER-PARTRIDGE & LOUIS MCALLISTERPARTRIDGE, 6 GUILDFORD ROAD, DAVYHULME, URMSTON,
MANCHESTER, M41 0SD From: Kingsway South To: Omega Boulevard Business Park Via: Warrington Bus Station, Winwick Road Name or No.: B52 / B52A Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 25 June 2019 Other details: Monday to Sunday.

PC0001061/188 BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD From: Lytham Square To: Preston City Centre Via: Freckleton Name or No.: LP / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 10 July 2019 End date: 14 July 2019 Other details: Nightly between 10/07/2019 and 14/07/2019.

Variations:

PC0003680/22 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Bolton Interchange and Stockport Bus Station given service number 22 / 2 effective from 11 August 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0003680/39 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Manchester, Trafford Centre and Bolton, Moor Lane Bus Station given service number 68 / effective from 11 August 2019. To amend
Timetable.

PG0007245/254 ARRIVA CYMRU LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE Operating between Mold Bus Station and Chester given
service number 4 / 4 / 4S effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Route and Timetable.

PG0007245/256 ARRIVA CYMRU LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE Operating between Chester, Bus Station and Ffordd Llanarth given service number 10 / 10 / 10A / 10S effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0002407/194 STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA Operating between Carlisle and Cockermouth given service number CA600 / 600 effective from 04 September 2019. To amend Route.

PC0001061/5 BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD Operating between Lytham (Saltcotes Rd) and Cleveleys given service number 7 / 7 effective from 10 July 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC1090231/93 D & G BUS LIMITED, MOSSFIELD ROAD, STOKE-ON-TRENT, ST3 5BW Operating between Capesthorne Road, Wistaston, Crewe and Capesthorne Road, Wistaston, Crewe given service number 8 / effective from 08 July 2019. To amend Route and Timetable.

Cancellations:

PC0003680/168 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Manchester, Shuehill Interchange and Bolton Interchange given service number 8 / 168 effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/146 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Manchester Piccadilly and Bolton Interchange given service number 36 / effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/429 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Bolton Interchange and Manchester Piccadilly given service number 37 / effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/20 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Manchester Piccadilly and Bury Interchange given service number 163 / 162 effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/36 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Rochdale Bus Station and Bolton Moor Lane Bus Station given service number 471 / effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/21 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between BURY and RAMSBOTTOM given service number 472 / 474 effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/4 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Farnworth and Chorley Old Road/ Moss Bank Way given service number 501 / effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/152 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Bolton Interchange and Bolton Interchange given service number 507 / effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/276 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Bury Interchange and Bolton Interchange given service number 510 / 511 effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/35 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Bury Interchange and Bolton Interchange given service number 524 / effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/9 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Bolton Interchange and Leigh Bus Station given service number 582 / effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/13 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between BOLTON and WITHINS ESTATE given service number 561 / 562 effective from 11 August 2019.

PC0003680/924 FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, FIRST MANCHESTER LTD, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR Operating between Leigh Bus Station and Manchester Picadilly given service number X39 / effective from 11 August 2019.

PC1144732/12 HATTONS TRANSPORT LTD, HATTONS TRAVEL, HAYDOCK HOUSE, 224 NORTH FLORIDA ROAD, HAYDOCK INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ST. HELENS, WA11 9TP Operating between St Helens Town Centre, Bickerstaffe Street and Newton Station given service number 141 / effective from 21 July 2019.

PC1144732/45 HATTONS TRANSPORT LTD, HATTONS TRAVEL, HAYDOCK HOUSE, 224 NORTH FLORIDA ROAD, HAYDOCK INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ST. HELENS, WA11 9TP Operating between Newton le Willows Tran Station and Haydock Lane, Haydock Industrial Estate given service number 141A / effective from 21 July 2019.

Full document:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk...19.pdf.pdf
Registrations:

PC0002691/158 HUYTON TRAVEL LTD, 37 WILSON ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L36 6AN From: Liverpool One Bus Station To: Liverpool One Bus Station Via: Sandhills Station, Bootle Bus Station, Moorfields Station Name or No.: 136 / / 235 Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 01 September 2019 Other details: 135 Monday to Friday 235 Monday to Saturday

PC0002691/159 HUYTON TRAVEL LTD, 37 WILSON ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L36 6AN From: Waterloo Interchange To: Kirkby Admin Via: Kirkby, Ashworth Hospital, Maghull, Crosby Name or No.: 133 / Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 01 September 2019 Other details: Monday to Saturday

Variations:

PC1033334/392 GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB Operating between Ellesmere Port and Mold given service number SP1 / 5 effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0003713/6 JOHN CHERRY, 17 ATLAS WAY, ELLESMERE PORT, CH66 1TL Operating between Chester Railway Station and Whitchurch, Tesco Bus Station given service number 41 / effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/10 STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA Operating between Whitehaven and Egremont given service number WC32 / 32E / 32 effective from 02 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/317 STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA Operating between Workington and Workington given service number WC47 / 47 effective from 02 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/108 STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA Operating between Maryport and Carlisle given service number WC300 / 301 / 300 effective from 02 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/194 STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA Operating between Carlisle and Cockermouth given service number CA600 / 600 effective from 02 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/341 STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA Operating between Whitehaven and Maryport given service number WC300MW / 301 / 300 / 302 effective from 02 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0003567/24 ROBERT JOHN MEAKIN, GROBY ROAD, CREWE, CW1 4PE Operating between Nantwich Bus Station and Nantwich Bus Station given service number 78 / effective from 02 September 2019. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0002691/63 HUYTON TRAVEL LTD, 37 WILSON ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L36 6AN Operating between Walton Park and Fazakerley Hospital given service number 159 / effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC0002691/152 HUYTON TRAVEL LTD, 37 WILSON ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L36 6AN Operating between Bootle Bus Station and Bootle Bus Station given service number 144 / effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0002691/150 HUYTON TRAVEL LTD, 37 WILSON ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L36 6AN Operating between Bootle and Aintree given service number 135 / 159 effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/242 GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB Operating between Preston and Penwortham given service number PR3 / 3 effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/196 GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB Operating between Chester Bus Exchange and Liverpool Sir Thomas Street given service number 1 / 1 / X1 effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Route and
Timetable.

PC1033334/253 GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB Operating between Southport and Liverpool given service number PRX2 / X2 effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

PC1033334/233 GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB Operating between Preston and Chipping given service number PR4 / 4 / 4C effective from 01 September 2019. To amend Timetable.

Cancellations:

PC0002407/364 STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA Operating between Barrow and Haverigg given service number BA7 / 7 effective from 02 September 2019.

PC0002407/343 STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LIMITED, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA Operating between Cockermouth and Whitehaven given service number CA601 / 600 effective from 02 September 2019.

Full document:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk...19.pdf.pdf
The HTL 136/235 - looks like they are taking over the contract currently held by Stagecoach
(17/07/2019 15:31)Walton 46 Wrote: [ -> ]The HTL 136/235 - looks like they are taking over the contract currently held by Stagecoach

And the 133 that was only recently given to Hattons.
(17/07/2019 15:31)Walton 46 Wrote: [ -> ]The HTL 136/235 - looks like they are taking over the contract currently held by Stagecoach

Shame that Stagecoach has lost the service. Always been a handy route during the evening peak to get to Bootle to connect woth the X2 towards Preston
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