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(24/10/2012 17:36)buses7675 Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't notice that at first actually that the revised route was shorter, at first glance it looked like the route was just swapped between licences.

I'd expect it will still be run from the Helms depot however, just on ACL O disks!

I think by shortening the route it can safely be operated by one vehicle .
So within 2 months the Neston - Arrowe Park section has gone from having a 7 day full service to withdrawal of evening/Sunday service to nothing - these government cuts seem to be really biting now - dread to think what will happen next year when even more/heavier cuts are introduced.
I believe the 41 and 101 are getting withdrawn

the 39A is getting withdrawn a regular driver on 39A said she be moving onto late 1A from 17th Dec
PC1017925/8 - FAIRBROTHERS LIMITED, 3 BRATHAY CL, WARRINGTON, WA2 9UY
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Warrington Town Centre and Warrington Town Centre given service number 21H effective from 29-Dec-2012.

PC1017925/10 - FAIRBROTHERS LIMITED, 3 BRATHAY CL, WARRINGTON, WA2 9UY
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Warrington Bus Station
Finish Point: Warrington Bus Station
Via: Orford, Longford
Service Number: 21X
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 04-JAN-2013
Other Details: Monday - Friday Not Bank Holiday

PC1017925/11 - FAIRBROTHERS LIMITED, 3 BRATHAY CL, WARRINGTON, WA2 9UY
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Warrington Bus Station
Finish Point: Warrington Bus Station
Via: Dallam
Service Number: 16X
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 04-JAN-2013
Other Details: Monday to Friday Not Bank Holiday Every half an hour
PC0002598/304 - ARRIVA NORTH WEST LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Altrincham Interchange and Manchester Airport, Cargo given service number 19 effective from 05-Nov-2012. To amend Route.

PC0002598/305 - ARRIVA NORTH WEST LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Trafford Centre and Altrincham Interchage given service number 18 effective from 22-Oct-2012. To amend Route.

HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between East Didsbury and Media City given service number 50/750/751 effective from 22-Oct-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0003681/106 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Manchester and Wythenshawe given service number 101 effective from 22-Oct-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC1048669/30 - M TRAVEL MINIBUSES LTD, 25 CORNBROOK PARK RD, MANCHESTER, M15 4EH
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Manchester Piccadilly and Ryder Brow given service number 188 effective from 29-Oct-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.
PC0001977/48 - WARRINGTON BOROUGH TRANSPORT LTD T/A NETWORK WARRINGTON, WILDERSPOOL CAUSEWAY, WARRINGTON, WA4 6PT
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Warrington Bus station and Woolston given service number 4/4A effective from 05-Nov-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0002312/1 - JOHN FISHWICK & SONS LTD, GOLDEN HILL GARAGE, GOLDEN HILL LANE, LEYLAND, PR25 3LE
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Preston Bus Station and Leyland, Fishwick's Garage given service number 111 effective from 15-Oct-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0004946/13 - HELMS COACHES LTD T/A HELMS OF EASTHAM, 11 CLARE ROAD, BOOTLE, L20 9LY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Chester Bus Exchange and Whitchurch Tesco given service number 41/41A/41B effective from 25-Dec-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0004946/19 - HELMS COACHES LTD T/A HELMS OF EASTHAM, 11 CLARE ROAD, BOOTLE, L20 9LY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Chester Bus Exchange and Huntington, Rake & Pikel given service number 45 effective from 25-Dec-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0004946/21 - HELMS COACHES LTD T/A HELMS OF EASTHAM, 11 CLARE ROAD, BOOTLE, L20 9LY
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Rother Drive and Ellesmere Port Bus Station given service number 7 effective from 25-Dec-2012.
(24/10/2012 17:42)St Helens Rider Wrote: [ -> ]So within 2 months the Neston - Arrowe Park section has gone from having a 7 day full service to withdrawal of evening/Sunday service to nothing - these government cuts seem to be really biting now - dread to think what will happen next year when even more/heavier cuts are introduced.

I'm so unhappy about this. As a Neston resident we've never had the links that Merseyside residents have. I have fond memories the old silver Iveco that Matthews used when they started their daytime link to Arrowe Park,we didn't mind it was small and hourly because at least it was going to turn up.

I know that patronage isn't great, but Neston is much larger than people give it credit for and with some very low income areas. It seems very unfair that Heswall has a lot of local and long distance services when it has a far lower population and a greater car ownership. Their only benefit is being the 'right' side of the boundary line. In my eyes Heswall gets buses because of political pressure, while Neston has real social need and can't afford them.

I can't believe that I'm going to say this, but, perhaps we should scrap the free OAP and Disabled travel scheme and use the money to provide buses. What's the point in free travel if you haven't got any services that take you where you need to go.
I see a possible escape is for the 487 to extend from Parkgate to Heswall of an evening but it would need some tinkering with timings to manage it .
Perhaps a more logical option would be to extend some 471/472 journeys to Neston.

Back to today's VOSA Business:

PC0001135/66 - TRENT MOTOR TRACTION CO LTD T/A TRENT BUSES, 88A MANSFIELD ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7BG
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bakewell, Matlock Street and Derby, Full Street given service number SIXES/6.1/6.2/6.3/6.4/6.x effective from 31-Dec-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/98 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackpool Abingdon Street and Garstang Park Hill Road given service number 42 effective from 31-Dec-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/355 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Morecambe, Homfray Avenue and Garstang, Bridge Street given service number 42 effective from 31-Dec-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC1013478/29 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Crewe Bus Station and Nantwich Bus Station given service number 45/45A effective from 01-Jan-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC1013478/38 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Crewe Bus Station and Crewe Bus Station given service number 14/15/16 effective from 01-Jan-2013.

PC1013478/39 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Crewe Bus Station and Crewe Bus Station given service number 8 effective from 01-Jan-2013.

PC1013478/42 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Crewe Bus Station and Macclesfield Bus Station given service number 38 effective from 01-Jan-2013. To amend Timetable.

PC1013478/47 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Crewe Bus Station and Rope Green Medical Centre given service number 8A/9 effective from 01-Jan-2013.

PC1013478/51 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Crewe Bus Station and Crewe Bus Station given service number 6A effective from 01-Jan-2013. To amend Timetable.

PC1013478/57 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Crewe and Northwich given service number 31X effective from 01-Jan-2013.

PC1013478/62 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Macclesfield and East Didsbury given service number 130 effective from 01-Jan-2013.

PC1013478/69 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Coppenhall and Nantwich given service number 44/44A effective from 01-Jan-2013.

PC1013478/78 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Crewe
Finish Point: Nantwich
Via: Shavington
Service Number: 44
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 01-JAN-2013
Other Details: Monday to Saturday Every 60 minutes

PC1013478/79 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Wistaston
Finish Point: Elm Drive
Via: South Cheshire College, Crewe
Service Number: 9
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 01-JAN-2013
Other Details: Mon to Sat Every 30 minutes

PC1013478/80 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Wistaton Green
Finish Point: Sydney
Via: Crewe
Service Number: 8
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 01-JAN-2013
Other Details: Mon to Sat - Every 30 minutes Sun and bank hols - every 60 minutes

PC1038309/102 - ACE TRAVEL (NORTH WEST) LTD, UNIT 3 - 7, BARCLAY TRADING ESTATE, WAREING ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 7AU
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Maghull Station and Maghull Station given service number 4/5 effective from 05-Nov-2012. To amend Timetable.
PC0002612/14 - HARRISONS COACHES (MORECAMBE) LTD T/A BATTERSBY SILVER GREY COACHES, THE COACH STATION, MIDDLEGATE, WHITE LUND INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, MORECAMBE, LA3 3PE
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Brookhouse Black Bull and Morecambe Morrisons given service number 431 effective from 29-Oct-2012. To amend Route.

PC0004417/144 - GREEN TRIANGLE BUSES LTD T/A SOUTH LANCASHIRE TRAVEL, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Ashton Heath and Wigan given service number 607 effective from 17-Dec-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0004417/145 - GREEN TRIANGLE BUSES LTD T/A SOUTH LANCASHIRE TRAVEL, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Ashton Heath and Newton Community Hospital given service number 603 effective from 17-Dec-2012. To amend Timetable.
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