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Hi All,
I seem to remember this Intresting thread from when I have browsed in the past it would be nice to see it back again.

PC0001141/12 - ARRIVA MERSEYSIDE LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Crossens and Woodvale given service number 49/49A effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0001141/463 - ARRIVA MERSEYSIDE LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Pontins
Finish Point: Pontins
Via:
Service Number: 41
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 22-JUL-2012
Other Details: Pontins, Pleasureland, Southport, Pontins

PC0002407/361 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Waterhead Hotel
Finish Point: Ravenglass
Via:
Service Number: X33
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 21-JUL-2012
Other Details: Operates daily from 21st July until 9th September 2012 yearly (Hail and Ride on parts of the route)

PC0002407/362 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Kendal
Finish Point: Bowness on Windermere
Via:
Service Number: B1
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 21-JUN-2012
Other Details: one day special event Olympic torch relay 21st June 2012

PC0002407/363 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Brockhole National Park
Finish Point: Waterhead Pier
Via:
Service Number: P&R
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 23-JUN-2012
Other Details: Two day special event Great North Swim 23rd to 24th June 2012

2 from yesterday i want to highlight

PC0002598/343 - ARRIVA NORTH WEST LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bolton Bus station and Johnson Fold given service number 519 effective from 29-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0002598/344 - ARRIVA NORTH WEST LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bolton Bus Station and Bury Interchange given service number 510 effective from 29-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

this is wrong as arriva have now lost the contracts

To recap the happenings whilst the site has been down as follows:

Wednesday 30th May:

PC0001061/2 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cleveleys and Saltcotes Road given service number 11 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0001061/5 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cleveleys and Saltcotes Road given service number 7 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0001061/13 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cleveleys Bus Station and Lytham Square given service number 2/2C effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0001061/22 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cleveleys and Tesco given service number 3 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0001061/23 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Variation Accepted: Operating between Mereside (Tesco Car Park) and Cleveleys Park given service number 4 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0001061/62 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackpool, Corporation Street and Cleveleys given service number 16 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0001061/84 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Staining Turning Circle and Teanlowe Centre given service number 15 effective from 22-Jul-2012.

PC0001061/108 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Variation Accepted: Operating between Fleetwood Ferry and Blackpool Airport given service number 1 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0001061/146 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackpool Town Centre and Cleveleys given service number 9 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0001061/147 - BLACKPOOL TRANSPORT SERVICES LTD, RIGBY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 5DD
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackpool Town Centre and Lytham given service number 17 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

Thursday 31st May (apologies for any duplicates):

PC0001439/75 - HOLMESWOOD COACHES LTD, SANDY WAY, HOLMESWOOD, ORMSKIRK, L40 1UB
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Preston and Croston given service number 112 effective from 22-Jul-2012.

PC0002598/343 - ARRIVA NORTH WEST LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bolton Bus station and Johnson Fold given service number 519 effective from 29-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0002598/344 - ARRIVA NORTH WEST LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bolton Bus Station and Bury Interchange given service number 510 effective from 29-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0002598/353 - ARRIVA NORTH WEST LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bolton and Wigan given service number 574/575/576 effective from 29-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0002598/356 - ARRIVA NORTH WEST LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bolton Bus Station and Crowthorn School given service number 537/538 effective from 29-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0003680/436 - FIRST MANCHESTER LTD T/A FIRST, WALLSHAW STREET, OLDHAM, OL1 3TR
Variation Accepted: Operating between Manchester Shudehill Bus Station and Rochdale Bus Station given service number 17/17A/18 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0004417/2 - GREEN TRIANGLE BUSES LTD T/A SOUTH LANCASHIRE TRAVEL, UNIT 22, CHANTERS INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, TYLDESLEY OLD ROAD, ATHERTON, MANCHESTER, M46 9BE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Leigh Bus Station and Trafford Centre given service number 126 effective from 29-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0004417/149 - GREEN TRIANGLE BUSES LTD T/A SOUTH LANCASHIRE TRAVEL, UNIT 22, CHANTERS INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, TYLDESLEY OLD ROAD, ATHERTON, MANCHESTER, M46 9BE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wigan and Worsley Hall given service number 644 effective from 29-Jul-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0004417/152 - GREEN TRIANGLE BUSES LTD T/A SOUTH LANCASHIRE TRAVEL, UNIT 22, CHANTERS INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, TYLDESLEY OLD ROAD, ATHERTON, MANCHESTER, M46 9BE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Bolton and Trafford Centre given service number 300 effective from 29-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005248/2 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackburn Boulevard and Accrington, Peel Street given service number 6/18/18A/7 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0005248/9 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Clitheroe Interchange and Bolton, Moor Lane Bus Station given service number 225/325/425 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005248/86 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Accrington, Peel Street and Darwen Cemetery given service number 1 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005248/178 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackburn, Boulevard and Blackburn, Boulevard given service number 17/17A effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005248/180 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackburn, Boulevard and Sunnybower, Oakwood Ave given service number 14 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005248/182 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackburn, Ainsworth Street and Darwen Bus Station given service number 2 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005248/183 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackburn, Ainsworth Street and Blackburn, Penny Street given service number 12/12A/12C effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005248/184 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackburn, Boulevard and Blackburn Boulevard given service number 9/9A effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005248/185 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackburn, Ainsworth Street and Leyburn Road given service number 4 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005248/186 - LANCASHIRE UNITED LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackburn, Ainsworth Street and Feniscowles, Star Drive given service number 3 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005249/10 - BURNLEY & PENDLE TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Colne and Keighley/Trawden given service number 20/21/22/23/24/25/27 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005249/12 - BURNLEY & PENDLE TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Colne and Skipton Bus Station given service number 20/21/22/23/24/25/26/27/28/29/451 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005249/15 - BURNLEY & PENDLE TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Nelson Bus Station and Rosegrove, Lane Ends given service number 4/5 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005249/44 - BURNLEY & PENDLE TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Nelson Bus Station and Manchester, Chorlton Street. given service number X43/X44 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Stopping Places and Timetable.

PC0005249/65 - BURNLEY & PENDLE TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burnley Bus Station and Accrington Infant Street given service number 9 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005249/122 - BURNLEY & PENDLE TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burnley Bus Station and Accrington, Infant Street given service number 23 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005249/123 - BURNLEY & PENDLE TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burnley Bus Station and Clitheroe or Padiham Slade Lane given service number 20,22,26,27 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC0005332/53 - MANCHESTER COMMUNITY TRANSPORT LIMITED, CROSSLEY PARK, CROSSLEY ROAD, HEATON CHAPEL, STOCKPORT, SK4 5BF
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Withington Hospital Manchester and Withington Hospital Manchester given service number 196 effective from 25-May-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC1013478/60 - D & G COACH & BUS LTD T/A D & G DERBY, 26 THE MEADOWS, KINGSTONE, UTTOXETER, ST14 8QE
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Crewe and Chester given service number 81 effective from 29-Jul-2012.

PC1023154/8 - STEWART EDWARD GRAHAM T/A ROBINSONS COACHES, STATION ROAD GARAGE, APPLEBY-IN-WESTMORLAND, CA16 6TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Appleby and Appleby given service number Crosby Ravensworth effective from 01-Sep-2012.

PC1090231/23 - ROLLING SOLUTIONS LTD T/A STRAWBERRY, UNIT, 22-23 CHANTERS INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, TYLDESLEY OLD ROAD, ATHERTON, MANCHESTER, M46 9BE
Variation Accepted: Operating between St Helens and Ormskirk given service number 319 effective from 12-Aug-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

and Today 1st June:

PC0001141/12 - ARRIVA MERSEYSIDE LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Crossens and Woodvale given service number 49/49A effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

PC0001141/463 - ARRIVA MERSEYSIDE LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Pontins
Finish Point: Pontins
Via:
Service Number: 41
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 22-JUL-2012
Other Details: Pontins, Pleasureland, Southport, Pontins

PC0002407/361 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Waterhead Hotel
Finish Point: Ravenglass
Via:
Service Number: X33
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 21-JUL-2012
Other Details: Operates daily from 21st July until 9th September 2012 yearly (Hail and Ride on parts of the route)

PC0002407/362 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Kendal
Finish Point: Bowness on Windermere
Via:
Service Number: B1
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 21-JUN-2012
Other Details: one day special event Olympic torch relay 21st June 2012

PC0002407/363 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Brockhole National Park
Finish Point: Waterhead Pier
Via:
Service Number: P&R
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 23-JUN-2012
Other Details: Two day special event Great North Swim 23rd to 24th June 2012

PC0002407/364 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Barrow
Finish Point: Millom
Via:
Service Number: 7B
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 28-MAY-2012
Other Details: Contract awarded by Cumbria County Council

PC0003681/320 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Manchester
Finish Point: Etihad Stadium
Via:
Service Number: 216C
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 22-JUN-2012
Other Details: Bruce Springsteen Concert Buses

PC0005249/119 - BURNLEY & PENDLE TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burnley and Bur/Manchester given service number 8/X8 effective from 23-Jul-2012. To amend Stopping Places and Timetable.

This brings up back up to date.

Quote:PC1090231/23 - ROLLING SOLUTIONS LTD T/A STRAWBERRY, UNIT, 22-23 CHANTERS INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, TYLDESLEY OLD ROAD, ATHERTON, MANCHESTER, M46 9BE
Variation Accepted: Operating between St Helens and Ormskirk given service number 319 effective from 12-Aug-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

This is interesting.. A temporary summer timetable to fit around a lack of school buses maybe? I'd have suggested a possibly summer link through to Southport but would I be correct in thinking that if that were the case, it'd be stated in the registration variation as a secondary end point (i.e. Ormskirk/Southport)?

I notice the 41 for Arriva Southport has been registered without the 25!

Looks like no open top tours anymore!

(02/06/2012 20:35)CX54 DKD Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:PC1090231/23 - ROLLING SOLUTIONS LTD T/A STRAWBERRY, UNIT, 22-23 CHANTERS INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, TYLDESLEY OLD ROAD, ATHERTON, MANCHESTER, M46 9BE
Variation Accepted: Operating between St Helens and Ormskirk given service number 319 effective from 12-Aug-2012. To amend Route and Timetable.

This is interesting.. A temporary summer timetable to fit around a lack of school buses maybe? I'd have suggested a possibly summer link through to Southport but would I be correct in thinking that if that were the case, it'd be stated in the registration variation as a secondary end point (i.e. Ormskirk/Southport)?

I think if some extra Southport journeys were going to be introduced, it would state that the service would be running between St Helens and Southport. I think the places named are the furthest points of where the service runs to. I could be (and probably am!) wrong though!

I do wonder if this re-routing is to put some journeys back through Barrow Nook and Bickerstaffe.

Thanks for that 27701, I did think that could be the case!

@St Helens Rider, If so, then residents in those areas must have gotten Lancashire County Council to subsidise those journeys. I know Oliver Howarth is no longer involved but when I spoke to him regarding it, he stated that they simply couldn't continue to run profitably through that area due to a lack of users aside from those with passes and the increased wear and tear the poor road surfaces were causing the vehicles.

This was just a thought as I can't think of any other possible credible re-routing.