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I agree there, it shocks me that Arriva midlands lend the wales region more buses than the north west
From VOSA:

PG0007245/257 - ARRIVA CYMRU LTD T/A ARRIVA BUSES WALES, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Rhyl and Chester given service number 11M/11F/11G/11X effective from 11-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PG0007245/261 - ARRIVA CYMRU LTD T/A ARRIVA BUSES WALES, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Rhyl and Chester given service number 11/11A effective from 11-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
(11/08/2015 11:09)T42 PVM Wrote: [ -> ]From VOSA:

PG0007245/257 - ARRIVA CYMRU LTD T/A ARRIVA BUSES WALES, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Rhyl and Chester given service number 11M/11F/11G/11X effective from 11-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PG0007245/261 - ARRIVA CYMRU LTD T/A ARRIVA BUSES WALES, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted: Operating between Rhyl and Chester given service number 11/11A effective from 11-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

Smithy is the route change prest haven sands
(11/08/2015 20:50)Conbus Wrote: [ -> ]Smithy is the route change prest haven sands

Yeah it's that.
Visit to the town centre today

timings in Rhyl were very bad today

35/36 operating late
plus 83/84 leaving bus station at the same time.

I also think arriva should rethink about extended 1 51 per hour to ruthin as I see so many people getting off at Denbigh then getting another bus gha 55 to ruthin. 8 people went off the arriva then onto gha at ruthin today.

also such a shame that the 12 does not operate to Conwy. would be nice to see a bus between Rhyl and Conwy like the old 16 service
(12/08/2015 18:46)Conbus Wrote: [ -> ]Visit to the town centre today

timings in Rhyl were very bad today

35/36 operating late
plus 83/84 leaving bus station at the same time.

I also think arriva should rethink about extended 1 51 per hour to ruthin as I see so many people getting off at Denbigh then getting another bus gha 55 to ruthin. 8 people went off the arriva then onto gha at ruthin today.

also such a shame that the 12 does not operate to Conwy. would be nice to see a bus between Rhyl and Conwy like the old 16 service

To be fair the traffic in rhyl and surrounding areas is horrific during the summer months. The drivers and office staff me included all try very hard to keep all services running, even if that means running it late. My thought is that a bus turning up 15 or so minutes late is better then not turning up at all.

Not enough demand for a 51 to extend to Ruthin. Enough buses going to Conwy from Llandudno, doesn't need another service extending there.
4191? On 11 today (DAF Lowlander)
(15/08/2015 16:32)E208 WBG Wrote: [ -> ]4191? On 11 today (DAF Lowlander)

Indeed it was, heavy traffic through Shotton and Flint causing delays to service 11, only spare buses were a Enviro200 or the Lowlander, so off it went!
Three observations.

First one, I notice the 1 serves Prestatyn High Street before coming back round to the bus station. A route I don't think has ever had a bus service, not in the last 20 years at least. Is there any reason why this new route has been introduced?

Second one, do buses on the 12 swap boards at Rhyl because if three arrive in close behind each other like is often the case, they all get dumped on the stand and the rear one seems to then often stay around for ages, with other later arrivals jumping the queue and going out first?

Last one, is the 51S still a double deck or now a Max spare?
Does anyone know what's standing in on Rhyl-Chester service at the moment only I noticed 2 Cymru Coastliner branded Geminis at Bus and Coach World when I was passing on the train to Blackburn yesterday morning
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