All of MCT’s Stockport work which wasn’t lost has gone to diamond on a emergency tender basis. They will operate them for the forseable future until TFGM can secure new operators for them.
Some MCT drivers will finish on the Saturday at MCT and start at Diamond on the Sunday to drive these routes. All will be run from Eccles.
Regarding 391/392 nobody has got the tender yet, from what I've heard once all this is over and we're out of lockdown then Cheshire East/Transport Service Solutions will look at retendering the service.
(15/04/2020 06:06)M60lad Wrote: [ -> ]Regarding 391/392 nobody has got the tender yet, from what I've heard once all this is over and we're out of lockdown then Cheshire East/Transport Service Solutions will look at retendering the service.
What then happens in the interim, between the closure of MCT at the end of April and the newly awarded contract stating ?. An emergency tender ?. This is CEC we're talking about, whose grasp on public transport provision is mediocre, to say the least.
(15/04/2020 10:13)KXW212 Wrote: [ -> ]What then happens in the interim, between the closure of MCT at the end of April and the newly awarded contract stating ?. An emergency tender ?. This is CEC we're talking about, whose grasp on public transport provision is mediocre, to say the least.
Both MCT and Cheshire East have said that the council will try and provide some sort of emergency provision for any key workers who rely on the service. I suspect this means TSS providing a very limited service for key workers only, using the FlexiLink minibuses.
In the case of someone living in Poynton saying they provide admin support at Stepping Hill Hospital, I suspect Cheshire East to tell them to get a train to Stockport, from where they can get an onward bus or train, opposed providing a bus for them.
Anyone who relies on the 391/392 to get to the local supermarket is screwed, given the usual FlexiLink service has already been suspended.
(15/04/2020 06:06)M60lad Wrote: [ -> ]Regarding 391/392 nobody has got the tender yet, from what I've heard once all this is over and we're out of lockdown then Cheshire East/Transport Service Solutions will look at retendering the service.
The tender has gone out and been won by another operator as drivers currently working the 391/392 were told they had to TUPE over. CEC/TSS have reviewed passenger numbers over the last 3 weeks and decided to suspend the service but once it’s all over it will pass to the operator and will continue as normal.
I can completly understand why they have took the decision to suspend it as the contract has to be paid in full to the operator even if it’s running on a skeleton timetable, so CEC/TSS have thought it’s better to save money than to pay an operator NOT to run all the services there paying them to run.
(15/04/2020 11:56)Mayneway Wrote: [ -> ]The tender has gone out and been won by another operator as drivers currently working the 391/392 were told they had to TUPE over. CEC/TSS have reviewed passenger numbers over the last 3 weeks and decided to suspend the service but once it’s all over it will pass to the operator and will continue as normal.
I can completly understand why they have took the decision to suspend it as the contract has to be paid in full to the operator even if it’s running on a skeleton timetable, so CEC/TSS have thought it’s better to save money than to pay an operator NOT to run all the services there paying them to run.
Why would that be the case? The contract is likely written on the basis that running x journeys Mon-Fri and y journeys on Sat for a period of z years incurs a subsidy of w.
CEC contracts usually have clauses in them about if passenger numbers are lower/higher than expected. If it's lower then the council and operator consult about the next steps - which could be service reduction, using smaller vehicles, higher subsidy or early termination of the contract, if it's higher then the operator may be required to use the extra revenue taken to fund the use of larger vehicles. If that clause has been activated already and it's been agreed between the operator and the council that x and y will be lower, then w may also change.
If on the other hand you're suggesting the operator hasn't agreed to any change then they have to run all the journeys they are contracted to provide. If you're suggesting CEC are breaching their contract then the operator should only get damages for costs incurred - probably just any vehicle leasing/maintenance costs for a month (given the government would pick up the tab for putting any drivers on furlough.)
MCT route covers have been announced and will be operating to Temporary Timetables
7 | Ashton - Stockport | MCT Journeys will now be operated by Diamond
18 | Wythenshawe - Trafford Centre | will now be operated by Diamond
41 | Ashton - Yew Tree Circular | Mon - Sat Day operated by Stotts and Sunday & Evenings operated by Stagecoach
44 | Manchester - Stockport | will now be operated by Diamond
96 | Manchester - Simister | will now be operated by Go North West
197 | Manchester - Stockport | MCT Journeys will now be operated by Diamond
217 | Ashton - Manchester | Rerouted and Will now be operated by Diamond
232 | Ashton - Smallshaw Circular | Will now be operated by Stagecoach
237 | Glossop - Ashton | Will now be operated by Stagecoach
247 | Altrincham - Trafford Centre | MCT Journeys will be Operated by Diamond
307/308 | Stockport - Hazel Grove | Temporarily Withdrawn and Replaced by Local Link Services
312 | Handforth Dean - Stockport | Will now be operated by Diamond
328 | Stockport - Adswood Circular | MCT Journeys Will now be operated by Diamond
329 | Stockport - Reddish | MCT Journeys Will now be operated by Diamond
335 | Ashton - Dukinfield Circular | Will now be operated by Stotts
336/337 Ashton - Hazelhurst Circular | All journeys will now be operated by Stagecoach
339 | Ashton - Crowhill | Mon - Sat Journeys will now be operated by Stotts and Sundays will now be operated by Stagecoach
(15/04/2020 20:49)Mikeonthebuses Wrote: [ -> ]MCT route covers have been announced and will be operating to Temporary Timetables
7 | Ashton - Stockport | MCT Journeys will now be operated by Diamond
18 | Wythenshawe - Trafford Centre | will now be operated by Diamond
41 | Ashton - Yew Tree Circular | Mon - Sat Day operated by Stotts and Sunday & Evenings operated by Stagecoach
44 | Manchester - Stockport | will now be operated by Diamond
96 | Manchester - Simister | will now be operated by Go North West
197 | Manchester - Stockport | MCT Journeys will now be operated by Diamond
217 | Ashton - Manchester | Rerouted and Will now be operated by Diamond
232 | Ashton - Smallshaw Circular | Will now be operated by Stagecoach
237 | Glossop - Ashton | Will now be operated by Stagecoach
247 | Altrincham - Trafford Centre | MCT Journeys will be Operated by Diamond
307/308 | Stockport - Hazel Grove | Temporarily Withdrawn and Replaced by Local Link Services
312 | Handforth Dean - Stockport | Will now be operated by Diamond
328 | Stockport - Adswood Circular | MCT Journeys Will now be operated by Diamond
329 | Stockport - Reddish | MCT Journeys Will now be operated by Diamond
335 | Ashton - Dukinfield Circular | Will now be operated by Stotts
336/337 Ashton - Hazelhurst Circular | All journeys will now be operated by Stagecoach
339 | Ashton - Crowhill | Mon - Sat Journeys will now be operated by Stotts and Sundays will now be operated by Stagecoach
The X5 will be run by Diamond too
(15/04/2020 20:49)Mikeonthebuses Wrote: [ -> ]MCT route covers have been announced and will be operating to Temporary Timetables
7 | Ashton - Stockport | MCT Journeys will now be operated by Diamond
18 | Wythenshawe - Trafford Centre | will now be operated by Diamond
41 | Ashton - Yew Tree Circular | Mon - Sat Day operated by Stotts and Sunday & Evenings operated by Stagecoach
44 | Manchester - Stockport | will now be operated by Diamond
96 | Manchester - Simister | will now be operated by Go North West
197 | Manchester - Stockport | MCT Journeys will now be operated by Diamond
217 | Ashton - Manchester | Rerouted and Will now be operated by Diamond
232 | Ashton - Smallshaw Circular | Will now be operated by Stagecoach
237 | Glossop - Ashton | Will now be operated by Stagecoach
247 | Altrincham - Trafford Centre | MCT Journeys will be Operated by Diamond
307/308 | Stockport - Hazel Grove | Temporarily Withdrawn and Replaced by Local Link Services
312 | Handforth Dean - Stockport | Will now be operated by Diamond
328 | Stockport - Adswood Circular | MCT Journeys Will now be operated by Diamond
329 | Stockport - Reddish | MCT Journeys Will now be operated by Diamond
335 | Ashton - Dukinfield Circular | Will now be operated by Stotts
336/337 Ashton - Hazelhurst Circular | All journeys will now be operated by Stagecoach
339 | Ashton - Crowhill | Mon - Sat Journeys will now be operated by Stotts and Sundays will now be operated by Stagecoach
345 will be stagecoach as well. They seem to be slowly adding more on the website.
Does anybody know who's going to be operating 159 from this weekend as nothing is mentioned on TfGM website?