First 2016/17 order

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

First 2016/17 order
FirstGroup have announced they are investing £70m in 305 new vehicles this year.

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/bus...?piano_t=1

[Kieran_Wilkins1997]

RE: First 2016/17 order
Nothing new for Bury Depot sadly

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: First 2016/17 order
Known allocations so far:

Alexander Dennis Enviro200 (71)
Unknown at present

Alexander Dennis Enviro400 (133)
TBC-TBC - Bristol (12)
TBC-TBC - Somerset & Avon - Bath (8)

Volvo B11R (10)
Unknown at present

Wright StreetDeck (71)
TBC-TBC - Bristol (3)
TBC-TBC - West Yorkshire - Bramley (amount TBC)

Wright StreetLite Max (20)
63369-63374: South Yorkshire - Rotherham
63375-63388: South Yorkshire - Doncaster

Thanks to:
Railforums
South Yorkshire Transport forum

[RedPanda]

RE: First 2016/17 order

(27/04/2016 18:33)Dentonian Wrote:  How do you know? The allocations listed are only a tiny minority of the 305 - unless you know something we don't! Even with the recenty cull of Citaroes (none of which have actually left the fleet), there will be in excess of 50 buses in the First Manchester fleet barred from TFGM tenders on the basis of age alone, and nearly 50 new buses are needed *every* year to achieve a 15 year life.

Is this 15 year life a TFGM policy that no buses over this age can operate a public service within its area? Manchester may well get it's share of 50 buses or so or First may be in talks with manufactuers for a second order.

[Nicholas]

RE: First 2016/17 order

(27/04/2016 22:20)RedPanda Wrote:  Is this 15 year life a TFGM policy that no buses over this age can operate a public service within its area?

No - the age limit applies to tenders only.

[WhiteVanMan]

RE: First 2016/17 order

(27/04/2016 17:24)SL64 JDZ Wrote:  Known allocations so far:

Alexander Dennis Enviro400 (133)
TBC-TBC - Bristol (12)
TBC-TBC - Somerset & Avon - Bath (8)

30 for First Kernow, confirmed by Alex Carter (Manager at First Kernow)

[pete tierney]

RE: First 2016/17 order
Wright StreetDeck (71)

TBC-TBC - West Yorkshire - Bramley (amount TBC)

I've been informed that the first two for West Yorkshire have been delivered to Hunslet Park depot.
35212 & 35213, SL16RF- & SL16RFY

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: First 2016/17 order
Thanks for the updates all. Here's a slightly updated list!

Alexander Dennis Enviro200 (71)
Unknown at present

Alexander Dennis Enviro400 (133)
TBC-TBC - Bristol (12)
TBC-TBC - Kernow (30)
TBC-TBC - Somerset & Avon - Bath (8)

Volvo B11R (10)
TBC-TBC - Aircoach (6)

Wright StreetDeck (71)
TBC-TBC - Bristol (3)
TBC-TBC - West Yorkshire - Bramley/Hunslet Park (amount TBC)

Wright StreetLite Max (20)
63369-63374: South Yorkshire - Rotherham
63375-63388: South Yorkshire - Doncaster

Thanks to:
Railforums
South Yorkshire Transport forum

[YN05 WKE]

RE: First 2016/17 order
I presume Manchester or Potteries will get something they seem to most years

[Metroline1511]

RE: First 2016/17 order
I notice a reduction of orders by Stagecoach and First. Maybe this is in part due to the uncertainties of the Buses Bill and franchising in places, such as in Greater Manchester? Although unlikely, I wonder whether minor players in the area such as Arriva, High Peak or Transdev, independents like Diamond, Stotts and MCT, or newcomers such as Go-Ahead and National Express could gain much work at the expense of the big 2 when franchising kicks in?