Enviro 200s 755 and 780 are leaving Ace Travel shortly and are being rplaced with brand new vehicles fleet names have already been removed in preparation.
Anyone any idea what route Ace's new route 51 will take between Town and Netherton?
(26/01/2015 07:55)roymcneil Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone any idea what route Ace's new route 51 will take between Town and Netherton?
I suspect that it's just going to be the same as the withdrawn 831 between Netherton and Liverpool, albeit with a new number, after looking at the dates on the VOSA applications. I got that 831 a few weeks ago into Liverpool from Netherton and it picked-up very well! I just hope, for their own sake, that they don't take-over it Avon-style by increasing the fares dramatically and scaring the passengers away.
(26/01/2015 22:03)YJ59 AZA Wrote: [ -> ]I suspect that it's just going to be the same as the withdrawn 831 between Netherton and Liverpool, albeit with a new number, after looking at the dates on the VOSA applications. I got that 831 a few weeks ago into Liverpool from Netherton and it picked-up very well! I just hope, for their own sake, that they don't take-over it Avon-style by increasing the fares dramatically and scaring the passengers away.
Or any of their Bright Ideas (The new 38 Timetable)
Heard off an ACE driver that ACE are giving up the City Sightseeing Tours in August and are going to start more of their own routes.
Is this a good idea or not .
Do two operators of the Open top Market work in Liverpool ?
(09/02/2015 19:54)Shaun821 Wrote: [ -> ]Heard off an ACE driver that ACE are giving up the City Sightseeing Tours in August and are going to start more of their own routes.
Oh, that's great news for Merseytravel's timetable budget. More half-hearted attempts at services here, there and everywhere... Hope the drivers can rely on their managers and their bright ideas for a secure job. I'd credit them for their effort but they've lacked it lately, despite some successful ventures (81 and the 500/501).
What they did to the 38 after building it up was poor. Whether it was working or not, it doesn't take a genius to work-out that moving it away from pretty-much town itself isn't going to improve it. Then there's the 50... The first journey from Crosby seems to be busy, so it appears that they decided to increase the service from Bootle (a place with a bus to town every other minute) via a route with very little on it and not even stopping anywhere in town bar Mann Island/Canada Boulevard... They obviously believed in that as they put in to change it on its first week, improving it slightly by serving a bit more of Bootle and Liverpool (but then went and did the opposite to the 38). Shame as there's potential in the Crosby area at the moment with some areas without a link to where the 53A did take them to. As for the 36, looks like a good idea but they aren't running it properly so how can it possibly work?! Went for it a few times now and it hasn't showed-up and I've only heard bad things about it from other people so far.
There's no way that they're building-up a loyal customer base with their current ideas. Don't know if I'm the only one to think this but I'm getting sick of companies wasting potential in this struggling industry.
(09/02/2015 19:54)Shaun821 Wrote: [ -> ]Heard off an ACE driver that ACE are giving up the City Sightseeing Tours in August and are going to start more of their own routes.
Considering the fresh air they are carrying on Routes like the 36 that can`t be a good idea.
(09/02/2015 21:54)YJ59 AZA Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, that's great news for Merseytravel's timetable budget. More half-hearted attempts at services here, there and everywhere... Hope the drivers can rely on their managers and their bright ideas for a secure job. I'd credit them for their effort but they've lacked it lately, despite some successful ventures (81 and the 500/501).
What they did to the 38 after building it up was poor. Whether it was working or not, it doesn't take a genius to work-out that moving it away from pretty-much town itself isn't going to improve it. Then there's the 50... The first journey from Crosby seems to be busy, so it appears that they decided to increase the service from Bootle (a place with a bus to town every other minute) via a route with very little on it and not even stopping anywhere in town bar Mann Island/Canada Boulevard... They obviously believed in that as they put in to change it on its first week, improving it slightly by serving a bit more of Bootle and Liverpool (but then went and did the opposite to the 38). Shame as there's potential in the Crosby area at the moment with some areas without a link to where the 53A did take them to. As for the 36, looks like a good idea but they aren't running it properly so how can it possibly work?! Went for it a few times now and it hasn't showed-up and I've only heard bad things about it from other people so far.
There's no way that they're building-up a loyal customer base with their current ideas. Don't know if I'm the only one to think this but I'm getting sick of companies wasting potential in this struggling industry.
Dont even get me started on the 36, went for it last Monday and the 2nd to last trip from L1 decided not to observe the stop and the last 1 was 15 late and to make it laughable either 201 or 202 was on there today yet next to no one uses the service!!
They are doing my headin as they are hitting the right places but going about it all the wrong way!
I E.mailed Ace Travel regarding South Lancs Travel pulling of their 319 Service and Ace Travel have agreed to introduce 1 trip each way on a Trial Basis:
8am from St Helens Bus Station
6:05pm from Ormskirk Bus Station
EDIT: These are Mon - Fri trips!