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(25/03/2016 11:06)B10B6514 Wrote:  Going back years ago Stagecoach bought a couple of written off ex-Ribble Neoplan N722/Plaxton Paramount 4000s from the 171-180 C171-180 KHG batch for the same purpose.

Wasn't Ribble taken-over by Stagecoach in the early 80's!, and the Neoplans were new in 1985
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RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot
Ive been thinking that it could be donating parts to 17449 which got towed in a while back and hasnt seen service sinse. Pretty sure thats the reason 17272 is back being used on schools. God knows whats up with it though.
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(25/03/2016 15:26)WhiteVanMan Wrote:  Wasn't Ribble taken-over by Stagecoach in the early 80's!, and the Neoplans were new in 1985

Ribble was taken over in 1989.
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RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot
I was trying to illustrate that that buying a used/life expired vehicle as a spares resource is a trenchant of Stagecoach since their early days as aScottish independent and not just the conglomerate they are today WhiteVanMan.
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(25/03/2016 13:28)mbonwick Wrote:  That's precisely the reason that the ex-London X-NNO Tridents at Plymouth are being distributed around the country - it's cheaper to have the whole bus than to buy a new/recon engine.
There's also the bonus of other components being salvageable...

Will be interesting to see whether over the next 2 years, sizeable numbers of older Dart SLFs/Solos are used for spares rather than being sold on for further use?
This also has the benefit of 'starving' the second hand market and making it harder/more expensive for competitors to find vehicles for tenders etc.
But maybe 13 - 15 year old vehicles will be worn out and only suitable for the Scrap Man?
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RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot
the way certain buses are riding aged 6 years old i cant see them making the second hand market i find the build quality has gone down with the loss of Northern Counties. Hell even Wrights aren't as good and they for me had the highest build quality upto around 2007 then they dropped a bit if you compare a 05/55 plate Volvo Wrights to a 59 Plate pulsar you would guess wrongly which is older

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Think with Wrights it's the quality of the undereath they build on, Volvo and Scania are a far superior product than VDL. Rode on an 06 plate Blackpool Transport Volvo a few weeks ago and not a single rattle at all.
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(26/03/2016 11:49)Southernsofty Wrote:  Will be interesting to see whether over the next 2 years, sizeable numbers of older Dart SLFs/Solos are used for spares rather than being sold on for further use?
This also has the benefit of 'starving' the second hand market and making it harder/more expensive for competitors to find vehicles for tenders etc.
But maybe 13 - 15 year old vehicles will be worn out and only suitable for the Scrap Man?

I don't think we'll see that as there's not the financial incentive to start stripping darts/solos for parts.
As both designs have been around for so long with limited design changes (both Solo and Dart SLF appeared in 1998), and because they were built with common parts for the time, there is still a large spares pool.

Things like Volvo Olympians and early Dennis Tridents are slightly different as the availability of spares is beginning to drop; the DH10A unit from the Olympian hasn't been produced since 2000, and the C series unit in Tridents became an ISCe at Euro 3 (significant change, though engines are related) and then an ISBe from Euro4 to current.
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RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot
A mention on the Stagecoach Enthusiasts facebook group of the '56' plate Enviro400's returning to Preston in June.........

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(26/03/2016 20:06)gka472l Wrote:  A mention on the Stagecoach Enthusiasts facebook group of the '56' plate Enviro400's returning to Preston in June.........

So what if anything, is Gillmoss going to receive has replacements ?
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