Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(31/12/2012 06:23)ace Wrote:  

(30/12/2012 22:55)MX12EOC Wrote:  

(30/12/2012 14:55)ace Wrote:  So 19625 has gone off the 192 to other routes. I wonder if 10000 will remain on the 192 once all the hybrids are in service. Another interesting point about the 192 hybrids, what will happen with Hyde Road's share of the route? Will they use hybrids as well, or will they continue to use the 08/58/09 reg Enviro400's?

Well, I hope Stockport get all of the 192 share and all of the hybrids, otherwise it would be logical that Hyde Road Depot get a few hybrids if they keep their share of the route.

If 40 Hybrids are due to arrive are they all for the 192 and how would 40 be like spread out?

They would presumably be the same as the existing buses, spread out, i.e. the 20 59 reg's, around 10 58/09 reg's and 10 or more 08 reg's.
The fact there's more than 40 buses to replace in Stockport probably indicates that some Enviro400's will continue on the route, even from Stockport. Depending on how 'green' the route has to go in order to meet QBP rules, that's where Hyde Road's share gets interesting. It could be that some of the hybrids move there, but then there'll be gaps in Stockport's route. 'Hole in my bucket' comes to mind, lol

All 192s revert to Stockport depot from end of Jan.

[MX12EOC]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(31/12/2012 06:27)ace Wrote:  

(31/12/2012 01:14)Mayneway Wrote:  There was something mentioned on Facebook a couple of weeks ago by a fellow enthusiast who suggested the new hybrids would be split between ST and HE and that the 192 would be jointly run by both depots - probably just speculation.

There's also been a lot of speculation about where the MAN engined Enviro400's will end up, with Wigan hot favourite but apparently they are all staying put at ST.

Yes the final verdict is all the 59 reg's are staying at Stockport, presumably meaning Ashton's 06/56 East Midlands bound deckers will now be replaced by the 08 reg's.

Unless they're getting rid of the tridents from London?
Although it would make sense, as there are quite a few tridents slipping onto routes other than schoolbuses.

[MX12EOC]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(31/12/2012 01:54)mbonwick Wrote:  No Enviro400s will be heading to Wigan. In fact, there shouldn't be any vehicles heading over from the main Manchester fleet now.

The deckers at Wigan are only for schools AFAIK and are due to be replaced by London Tridents in summer.

Wait what about those DD's on the 32?

[ace]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(31/12/2012 11:21)MX12EOC Wrote:  

(31/12/2012 06:27)ace Wrote:  

(31/12/2012 01:14)Mayneway Wrote:  There was something mentioned on Facebook a couple of weeks ago by a fellow enthusiast who suggested the new hybrids would be split between ST and HE and that the 192 would be jointly run by both depots - probably just speculation.

There's also been a lot of speculation about where the MAN engined Enviro400's will end up, with Wigan hot favourite but apparently they are all staying put at ST.

Yes the final verdict is all the 59 reg's are staying at Stockport, presumably meaning Ashton's 06/56 East Midlands bound deckers will now be replaced by the 08 reg's.

Unless they're getting rid of the tridents from London?
Although it would make sense, as there are quite a few tridents slipping onto routes other than schoolbuses.

The London tridents are going to Wigan in the summer apparently, presumably to replace the Arrows which currently run the school services.
So that's about 10 of 40 accounted for. Now that we know Stockport are doing ALL of the 192 from the end of Jan, that's another 8 boards, meaning only 32 can leave anyway. I dare say a few more developments will occur in due course as there wouldn't be 22 buses going to Ashton surely.

[Linerz]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(29/12/2012 22:30)gka472l Wrote:  

(29/12/2012 22:26)Scania3379man Wrote:  Robert clark,

That right, they wont come service until like mbonwick say 6th jan for ticket machine. So it will be all full stagecoach alx300/Man 22400 to 7, 22301-8 and 22351,2,3,4,5,6, 7,8 and 22361,2 enter service on 6th january. I'm excited.

Not 22306/7 as I believe these are working for East Midlands at one of the Lincolnshire area depots.

HTH

They are based at Gainsborough depot and 22306 is proving rather mischievousness

[mbonwick]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
There will need to be some additional Tridents into Wigan - it requires more than the current London batch. Could we perhaps see some 51 plate examples heading north for conversion soon?

Don't forget that if HE are losing the 192 entirely to ST then they will lose 8 boards worth of work.

The reality of the situation is that things will shuffle around so the 06/56/07 plate examples leave - it won't be a case of whole batches of vehicles moving.

[Bevan Price]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(31/12/2012 22:12)mbonwick Wrote:  There will need to be some additional Tridents into Wigan - it requires more than the current London batch. Could we perhaps see some 51 plate examples heading north for conversion soon?

Or some Enviro400s from Stockport, possibly ?

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(31/12/2012 22:39)Bevan Price Wrote:  

(31/12/2012 22:12)mbonwick Wrote:  There will need to be some additional Tridents into Wigan - it requires more than the current London batch. Could we perhaps see some 51 plate examples heading north for conversion soon?

Or some Enviro400s from Stockport, possibly ?

None of the Enviro400s are going to Wigan from anywhere in Manchester.
There has been talk for a while of more Tridents coming North from London. Originally it was thought they may be for Magic, but now they look set for Wigan.

[MX12EOC]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(31/12/2012 22:53)ace Wrote:  

(31/12/2012 22:39)Bevan Price Wrote:  

(31/12/2012 22:12)mbonwick Wrote:  There will need to be some additional Tridents into Wigan - it requires more than the current London batch. Could we perhaps see some 51 plate examples heading north for conversion soon?

Or some Enviro400s from Stockport, possibly ?

None of the Enviro400s are going to Wigan from anywhere in Manchester.
There has been talk for a while of more Tridents coming North from London. Originally it was thought they may be for Magic, but now they look set for Wigan.

Well for the time being two unknown Enviro400's 08/58 reg I think are at Wigan to cover the B9TL's as they're getting a repaint! I believe that it's for the X34/600.

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester
Details of Stagecoach in Wigan fares, which will take effect from Sunday, now on the website:

Stagecoach's Dayrider tickets (adult, child, group, Dayrider plus One), weekly Megarider and EasyRider tickets will be valid for use and purchase. Monthly Megarider tickets valid for purchase at later date once Stagecoach ticket machines are fully installed (same also to Stagecoach Smartcard tickets).

Wigan Megarider ticket (£9) introudced offering unlimited travel for 7 days in Wigan area. Valid on the whole route of services 593, 598, 600, 601, 610, 621, 625, 626, 628, 631, 632 and 658. Also valid on service 32 between Wigan and Mosley Common, service 33 between Wigan and Astley, service X34 between Lowton and Astley (Stagecoach journeys only), service 113 between Wigan and Shevington Moor, service 540 between Wigan and Hindley Green and 695 (says 685 on website) between Wigan and Orrell (this would presumably mean the Wigan Megarider is valid on Nightbuses). Not valid on school bus services funded by Lancashire CC.

FirstDay/FirstWeek and Dayrider/Weekly Megarider tickets will be valid on all journeys on the X34. Monthly tickets only valid on own operator services. All First tickets no longer valid on all other ex-First services.

Single fares will be reduced with maximum fare reduced from £4.50 to £3.80

http://www.stagecoachbus.com/Wiganfares.aspx