Manchester bus franchising

[CUL 73V]

RE: Manchester bus franchising
TfGM ordered these buses a year ago, which is when the process of installing the charging equipment should have begun. Instead, TfGM decided to leave it until June of this year, three months before franchising starts, to submit the planning application for those works. That is woeful planning which Rotala cannot be blamed for whatsoever.

[GMBuses North]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(06/09/2023 21:55)CUL 73V Wrote:  TfGM ordered these buses a year ago, which is when the process of installing the charging equipment should have begun. Instead, TfGM decided to leave it until June of this year, three months before franchising starts, to submit the planning application for those works. That is woeful planning which Rotala cannot be blamed for whatsoever.

Oh if only it was that simple!

I think you'll find that everything was planned and agreed to be completed within that time frame. It was the subsequent melee that caused the works to be aborted that has set the timetable back.

[CUL 73V]

RE: Manchester bus franchising
It obviously wasn't planned very well then, was it?

Mind you, it's LCR who take the biscuit here. They had nearly two years to ensure the infrastructure was in place ahead of the hydrogen buses being delivered, and it still isn't now. I suppose that's the private sector's fault as well?

[GMBuses North]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(07/09/2023 08:10)CUL 73V:whack: Wrote:  It obviously wasn't planned very well then, was it?

Mind you, it's LCR who take the biscuit here. They had nearly two years to ensure the infrastructure was in place ahead of the hydrogen buses being delivered, and it still isn't now. I suppose that's the private sector's fault as well?

I have absolutely no involvement with the LCR stuff so I have no comments on it but nice try at a diversion!!

[CUL 73V]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(08/09/2023 21:24)GMBuses North Wrote:  I have absolutely no involvement with the LCR stuff so I have no comments on it but nice try at a diversion!!

Pull the other one. The only one who's trying to deflect anything here is you, by blaming Rotala for TfGM's poor planning.

[GMBuses North]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(08/09/2023 22:08)CUL 73V Wrote:  Pull the other one. The only one who's trying to deflect anything here is you, by blaming Rotala for TfGM's poor planning.

It takes two to tango shall we say and leave it at that...

[SF07]

RE: Manchester bus franchising
Bee Network will take over the 184 service between Oldham and Huddersfield when tranche 2 of the network starts on 24 March 2024. The service will transfer back to Oldham depot, having switched from First Manchester to First West Yorkshire's Huddersfield depot in April 2023 and has been funded by TfGM/WYCA since 10 December 2023, when First WY had planned to withdraw the service.

The registration for the 184 has now appeared under Stagecoach Manchester's licence, along with the 100 from Manchester to Warrington.

https://bustimes.org/registrations/PC0003681/1002
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...ls/619109/
https://bustimes.org/registrations/PC0003681/1000

[M60lad]

RE: Manchester bus franchising
Regarding 184 it will be interesting to see what route this will take as I'm led to believe its going back to the old route of operating direct via A62 from Marsden to Huddersfield, if not some route learning will have to be done to route learn all the Oldham Drivers the route via Mount Road and Causeway Side & Linthwaite.

[Metroline1511]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(15/01/2024 18:17)SF07 Wrote:  Bee Network will take over the 184 service between Oldham and Huddersfield when tranche 2 of the network starts on 24 March 2024. The service will transfer back to Oldham depot, having switched from First Manchester to First West Yorkshire's Huddersfield depot in April 2023 and has been funded by TfGM/WYCA since 10 December 2023, when First WY had planned to withdraw the service.

The registration for the 184 has now appeared under Stagecoach Manchester's licence, along with the 100 from Manchester to Warrington.

https://bustimes.org/registrations/PC0003681/1002
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...ls/619109/
https://bustimes.org/registrations/PC0003681/1000

So, Stagecoach will be back in Huddersfield after owning the Waterloo depot in 2005-08, but this time as part of the Bee Network.

[knutstransport]

RE: Manchester bus franchising
It seems as part of the Trafford franchises Altrincham to Manchester Airport will again become a standalone service.

In the (unlikely) event Warrington's Own Buses decided to continue running the X5 to Manchester Airport on a commercial basis, would that affect the proposed Bee Network 288?