Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(17/02/2018 20:37)boby32 Wrote:  Here's a video of 150123 and 150110 doing a service between Liverpool Lime Street and Manchester Victoria. Normally, this is booked as 319.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZl9Pii1_nQ

In a four car non through gang-wayed set like the 150/1 does the Guard have to be in the rear set to ensure a presence , its not a problem on there sister sets the 150/2 .

[childwallblues]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
As Northern will soon have 50 of these sets the problem will increase.

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(18/02/2018 08:50)wirralbus Wrote:  In a four car non through gang-wayed set like the 150/1 does the Guard have to be in the rear set to ensure a presence , its not a problem on there sister sets the 150/2 .

It should be noted it's Northern policy that the guard must be on the rear unit in such circumstances and must close the doors from the rear set even if it's 2 x 150/2s. GWR allow the guard to move between sets when it's 2 x 150/1s.

[childwallblues]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Does that apply to 319s?

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(18/02/2018 10:46)childwallblues Wrote:  Does that apply to 319s?

I don't think the 319s ever operate in multiple while in passenger service but if they did then yes.

[jtd508110]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
319s operate as 8 car for Northern but the rear set is always locked out of use as the platforms are too short.

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(18/02/2018 09:57)knutstransport Wrote:  It should be noted it's Northern policy that the guard must be on the rear unit in such circumstances and must close the doors from the rear set even if it's 2 x 150/2s. GWR allow the guard to move between sets when it's 2 x 150/1s.

Not correct. If the sets have a through gangway the Guard can release the doors from anywhere, but can't close them from the leading end of the front set. Any other position is OK.

SD.

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(17/02/2018 20:37)boby32 Wrote:  Here's a video of 150123 and 150110 doing a service between Liverpool Lime Street and Manchester Victoria. Normally, this is booked as 319.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZl9Pii1_nQ

Not correct,it is booked for 2 x DMU

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(20/02/2018 02:05)Gordon V Wrote:  Not correct,it is booked for 2 x DMU

Why is it booked as 2 x DMU?

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(20/02/2018 07:13)boby32 Wrote:  Why is it booked as 2 x DMU?

Because the previous working comes in via Warrington Central which isn't electrified