Liverpool's Clean Air Plan

[NathanR]

Liverpool's Clean Air Plan
Since I'd prefer not to include bus talk related to the Clean Air Plan in separate threads, I've created a new one mainly for public transportation talk related to the clean air plan, feel free to move this to another section of the forum if it is needed.

As already mentioned, there is the plans to introduce twenty new hydrogen powered double deckers for use on the 10A service between St. Helens and Liverpool, since the 10A is a QBP route, it's assumed that both Stagecoach and Arriva's St. Helens garage will receive ten each, with the hydrogen fuel facilities due to be built later in the year
Source: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv...g-20187577

Today, it has been reported that a £3.3 million plan has been approved to convert the engines of at least 200 buses, I'm presuming this will be on older buses since Arriva have at least 580+ buses and SCML having at least 400, I can't imagine buses such as the B5LH's between 2012 and 2017 or the MMC's getting conversions, though it could possibly be the nail in the coffin for aging Commanders, Cadets, and possibly the ALX400's but these are my assumptions.
Source: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv...y-20213430

[iMarkeh]

RE: Liverpool's Clean Air Plan

(20/03/2021 11:24)NathanR Wrote:  Since I'd prefer not to include bus talk related to the Clean Air Plan in separate threads, I've created a new one mainly for public transportation talk related to the clean air plan, feel free to move this to another section of the forum if it is needed.

As already mentioned, there is the plans to introduce twenty new hydrogen powered double deckers for use on the 10A service between St. Helens and Liverpool, since the 10A is a QBP route, it's assumed that both Stagecoach and Arriva's St. Helens garage will receive ten each, with the hydrogen fuel facilities due to be built later in the year
Source: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv...g-20187577

Today, it has been reported that a £3.3 million plan has been approved to convert the engines of at least 200 buses, I'm presuming this will be on older buses since Arriva have at least 580+ buses and SCML having at least 400, I can't imagine buses such as the B5LH's between 2012 and 2017 or the MMC's getting conversions, though it could possibly be the nail in the coffin for aging Commanders, Cadets, and possibly the ALX400's but these are my assumptions.
Source: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv...y-20213430

AS the funding is from the City Council, I would presume that Arriva could just rotate buses around so that the older buses are kept out of the city. I would guess most of the funding will go on Pulsars, MANs, Scanias. Maybe even a small bit for HTL.

[NathanR]

RE: Liverpool's Clean Air Plan

(20/03/2021 16:35)iMarkeh Wrote:  AS the funding is from the City Council, I would presume that Arriva could just rotate buses around so that the older buses are kept out of the city. I would guess most of the funding will go on Pulsars, MANs, Scanias. Maybe even a small bit for HTL.

The chances are then they'll either go to Birkenhead or St. Helens then, since there are a variety of services there that do not go to Liverpool.

[J654UHN]

RE: Liverpool's Clean Air Plan
B5s are Hybrid and the majority of the MMCs at Gillmoss are Euro 6 so are very clean anyway

[SN55DVG]

RE: Liverpool's Clean Air Plan

(20/03/2021 16:45)NathanR Wrote:  The chances are then they'll either go to Birkenhead or St. Helens then, since there are a variety of services there that do not go to Liverpool.

There aren't that many LS buses that don't go through the tunnel into the City Centre.

[L401CJF]

RE: Liverpool's Clean Air Plan
The VDL Pulsars at most depots (Birkenhead definitely) have been retrofitted with Eminnox Euro 6 standard exhaust systems over the past year or so. 2903-2909 being an exception.

[buses7675 (Website Founder)]

RE: Liverpool's Clean Air Plan

(20/03/2021 18:20)J654UHN Wrote:  B5s are Hybrid and the majority of the MMCs at Gillmoss are Euro 6 so are very clean anyway

All the MMCs at Gillmoss are Euro6

So is MAN 24174 and quite a lot of the Enviro300s have had Euro6 upgrades. Many of the Scania/Enviro400s have too, notable by the AdBlue filler flap near the emergency door.

Even some of the Darts had Euro6 upgrades when they were at Chester - they still see occasional use at Gillmoss.

[NathanR]

RE: Liverpool's Clean Air Plan
It has been reported by the BBC that WrightBus have been awarded a £11.2 grant by the government to develop hydrogen-fuel technology with jobs safeguarded for the company
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56476668

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: Liverpool's Clean Air Plan

(22/03/2021 13:51)NathanR Wrote:  It has been reported by the BBC that WrightBus have been awarded a £11.2 grant by the government to develop hydrogen-fuel technology with jobs safeguarded for the company
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56476668

Good to hear but I'm not entirely sure what this has to do with the Liverpool City Region as it hasn't been announced what vehicles have been ordered for the 10A yet

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: Liverpool's Clean Air Plan
The order for hydrogen buses has been increased from 20 to "up to 43" vehicles