Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

[M60lad]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan
Speaking of 203, Phil's favourite route was beset by delays again yesterday due roadworks/temporary lights in Reddish, delays of upto about 15mins at one point were being reported by twitter.

[ant17612]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan
19104 has transferred to Chesterfield.

[Solo40336]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan
Ferrymill's Volvo B7 eclipse FM30 is also now at Middleton, brought in to cover a shortage of buses.

[Mayneway]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

(24/01/2017 16:56)Solo40336 Wrote:  Ferrymill's Volvo B7 eclipse FM30 is also now at Middleton, brought in to cover a shortage of buses.

It's ferryhill not ferrymill

Surly the B7 is there subsidising for a vehicle away for body repairs. Carnt see they have hired in buses because of a shortage when they plenty of vehicles at Wigan in reserve?

[Solo40336]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

(24/01/2017 18:27)Mayneway Wrote:  It's ferryhill not ferrymill

Surly the B7 is there subsidising for a vehicle away for body repairs. Carnt see they have hired in buses because of a shortage when they plenty of vehicles at Wigan in reserve?

It's definitely Ferrymill of Glasgow.... Only one bus away for RTA damage at the minute. The B7 is an operational extra due to some unfortunately timed breakdowns

[Mayneway]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

(24/01/2017 18:39)Solo40336 Wrote:  It's definitely Ferrymill of Glasgow

Yep I stand corrected I always thought it was Ferryhill as in the place

[Mayneway]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

(24/01/2017 18:39)Solo40336 Wrote:  It's definitely Ferrymill of Glasgow.... Only one bus away for RTA damage at the minute. The B7 is an operational extra due to some unfortunately timed breakdowns

So in recent months they have cascaded and sold various buses, yes some that were past there best perhaps but others that wernt too bad only to now be forced to hire buses in because of a shortage.

[Solo40336]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

(24/01/2017 21:11)Dentonian Wrote:  The cascading isn't really the problem, but you seem to be right regarding he "others". Ignoring non-DDA or time expired vehicles, there are at least 8 Tridents and 2x '06 reg MANs in reserve, and the disposal list includes 5 more MANs and 4 full size single deckers that were former MN buses anyway. Are we saying all those are incapable of seeing further service?

It's all to do with the politics behind such a large company.... The reserve buses rarely come out of reserve, usually there out of MOT, and if not they require servicing before entering service, the. If a major failure was to occur, eg engine siezing, it's wasting money on a temporary bus, where as if a hire bus was to breakdown then a new bus is supplied fairly quickly. All just politics.

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan
With the cut of the 32 coming in would that not allow at least 1 of the AE51 Mans to be Withdrawn?

[Raawwwrrr!]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan
The reason that Stagecoach use Ferryhill Motors loaned buses is quite simply they aren't paying for them.

If a bus suffers a mechanical problem covered by the warranty, the bus will be sent back to the manufacturer and a loan bus is provided to them (it happens with other operators too - Arriva had a loaned Wrightbus Streetlight whilst one of their Streetlight EV's was sent back to Wrightbus for repair). If a bus has been involved in an RTA where the driver wasn't at fault, the cost of the loan comes from the other party, alongside the repair bill.

Ferryhill are in charge of MOT and Insurance of their vehicles, which is something stagecoach won't have to pay by taking buses out of reserve. The only cost to Stagecoach is fuel (and possibly minor maintenance such as a smashed window whilst in their care).