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(06/06/2012 20:05)Wright Eclipse Wrote:  Theres 1 trip currently run by huddersfield what means it runs dead from oldham to huddersfield anyway (not sure on the last one)

This statement is completely untrue.

I don't know where you've got that information from and this isn't the first piece of information I've noticed from you to be far from the truth to be honest. There are 18 miles between Huddersfield Bus Station and Wallshaw Street Depot at Oldham, which is easily a 40-50 minute drive and at the time you're implying it would run dead, that time could easily double to an hour and a half. No bus company would allow this to happen, never mind a well-managed international company like First even if we do struggle to notice their 'skills' in management

The timetables are arranged so that full-stretch 184's run from 0630 in the morning until 1730 in the evening. Huddersfield run the 0630 & 0730 184's from Huddersfield to Manchester and both arrive in Manchester at 0825 and 0925 respectively. Then they leave at half-past the hour every hour from either destination giving this pattern:

Huddersfield - Manchester: 0630 - 0825 / 0730 - 0925
Manchester - Huddersfield: 0830 - 1025 / 0930 - 1125
Huddersfield - Manchester: 1030 - 1225 / 1130 - 1325
Manchester - Huddersfield: 1230 - 1425 / 1330 - 1525
Huddersfield - Manchester: 1430 - 1625 / 1530 - 1725
Manchester - Huddersfield: 1630 - 1825 / 1730 - 1925

The two buses start and end their duties in Huddersfield, leaving minimal dead mileage.

Oldham depot buses (Manchester) are a little more complex - this is their working:

Grotton - Manchester: 0535 - 0625 & Uppermill - Manchester: 0620 - 0725
Manchester - Huddersfield: 0630 - 0825 / 0730 - 0925
Huddersfield - Manchester: 0830 - 1025 / 0930 - 1125
Manchester - Huddersfield: 1030 - 1225 / 1130 - 1325
Huddersfield - Manchester: 1230 - 1425 / 1330 - 1525
Manchester - Huddersfield: 1430 - 1625 / 1530 - 1725
Huddersfield - Manchester: 1630 - 1825 / 1730 - 1925

Both buses then go onto other duties for evening services only in the Greater Manchester area.

Unless First are planning on introducing more journeys on the 184 in the near future, those two B9TL's we sent in your direction won't be returning to Greater Manchester for a long while yet, if ever.

(Times are not those exactly stated on the timetables, however they aren't far off.)
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