Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot

[dounowhoiam]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot

(29/04/2020 21:47)iMarkeh Wrote:  Abellio don't like commercial work (look at Surrey) so it would be a big risk. In the unlikely event Clown Burnham isn't re-elected or franchising doesn't happen. I would 100% see them trying to keep their options open and put in an offer ready but I can't see them wanting to conclude any sale until such a time franchising is confirmed.

From my understanding of Arriva Wythenshawe's financial history; they have suffered significant loss in the last decade or so. With the Metrolink initially hitting their profits on the Altrincham line affecting 263 (and simular) routes, loss of gains with tender routes like the 20, the Airport line cutting customer numbers for 18 (which ceased commercial operation) and 19 (which faced multiple commercial changes that only upset customers further) and losing evening tender routes (less Arriva ticket buyers) making the depot a lot less valuable to the North West operations.

I do hope that Franchising does come into form despite the financial implications COVID-19 has caused. Operators will not be likely to bring back commercial routes to the frequency prior to the outbreak, therefore for best possible savior for public transport would be to a not focus on making as much profit as possible with operators that favour a franchise route be a better fit for Wythenshawe that despite financial issues is in a good location for those who depend on public transport to get around.

[Metroline1511]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot

(29/04/2020 21:47)iMarkeh Wrote:  Abellio don't like commercial work (look at Surrey) so it would be a big risk. In the unlikely event Clown Burnham isn't re-elected or franchising doesn't happen. I would 100% see them trying to keep their options open and put in an offer ready but I can't see them wanting to conclude any sale until such a time franchising is confirmed.

Talking of which, a decision on franchising had been due in March. This has inevitably been delayed due to Coronavirus.

If Arriva really want to divest their Manchester depots, I think Go-Ahead could be interested. They seem content either way with commercial or franchised operations.

[ant17612]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot
A fault with 2627 saw it replaced on the 247 yesterday by 3105, not something you see everyday! This is due to all but 3 Commanders currently being sorn.

[ant17612]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot
Commanders 2580,2593, 2623, 2625, Pulsar 3011 and All of the Enviro300s apart from 2745 are now back on the road. 2497, 2504, 2592 and 2621 remain Sorn/VOR.

[NathanR]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot
Looking at BusTimes apparently 2585 is now with Wythenshawe from Bootle and was on the 19, any confirmation of this?

Sorry for the six month bump.

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot
2515 has turned up here today

[ant17612]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot
2585 has been out on the 247 today. I have it on good authority that 2504 is now on the back wall awaiting its fate.

[BenWilks88]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot
Is there anything up with the Enviro300 2747, hasnt been out in just over a month.

[ant17612]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot

(26/02/2021 21:43)BenWilks88 Wrote:  Is there anything up with the Enviro300 2747, hasnt been out in just over a month.

Tracking as 3103.

[Michael]

RE: Arriva North West - Wythenshawe Depot

(02/05/2020 04:30)Metroline1511 Wrote:  Talking of which, a decision on franchising had been due in March. This has inevitably been delayed due to Coronavirus.

If Arriva really want to divest their Manchester depots, I think Go-Ahead could be interested. They seem content either way with commercial or franchised operations.

What bus company in there right minds would spend money buying another company in greater manchester wythenshawe becomes franchised in jan 2025