Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(05/07/2012 13:49)jonesy3001 Wrote:  They are the same layout as the 19xxxs just the reg and back number blind are different, stagecoach are just reusing the old titan numbers as they have ran out of 19xxxs as from 19900 they are the heritage fleet.

I know about that.
I was meaning more the extra vents, for the revised cooling systems required for the Euro6 engine, and the new exhaust system, which 10000 has but 10042-51 don't.
Rear of 10000
Photo showing rear of 10047
(Both photos: "selnec72").
There's also visible differences through the standard grilles. I believe the large amount of shiny metal in 10000 is the new CCV (although this would need to be confirmed by someone with more mechanical knowledge than I have): "A further emissions improvement is the new closed crankcase ventilation (CCV) system mounted to the engine valve cover. It is needed to re-cycle blow-by gases now counted in the engine emissions and has been repositioned for cab over designs."

Another difference I hadn't picked up on until I read a comment stating it, is the AdBlue tank has been relocated from the under the stairs to nearer the rear of 10000, 10042-51 (10045 certainly) still have the tanks under the stairs. The move of the tank to the rear is consistent with Cummins claims that the Euro6 engine doesn't need as much Adblue due to the mixture of EGR and SCR technologies (where in the past operators based their engine/chassis preference to either EGR or SCR), meaning a smaller tank is sufficient.

Indeed, as mbonwick said, the order sheets show "Emission Level" as "5S".

So far, there is more evidence to suggest they are Euro5's and not Euro6's, especially as Cummins only launched the technologies to be used for production from 2013.