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(22/08/2026 13:50)Metroline1511 Wrote: [ -> ]I realise they will not change in September/October. It will be interesting to see where these are allocated, and/or whether other routes will also be reallocated.

The 53 will go to Bootle when the Sefton Franchise starts next July, I think it is.
Usual bustimes disclaimer, but it looks like a few of the 66 plate E400MMC's (not METRO ones) are back in service at Gillmoss today.....with 10820/3-7/30 all being out, mostly on the 14.....and hardly any of the METRO ones are out (only 5 out)
(25/08/2026 09:07)gka472l Wrote: [ -> ]Usual bustimes disclaimer, but it looks like a few of the 66 plate E400MMC's (not METRO ones) are back in service at Gillmoss today.....with 10820/3-7/30 all being out, mostly on the 14.....and hardly any of the METRO ones are out (only 5 out)

Low trees are an issues on the 14 so the MMCs are staying on them for the time being, it could also be a case of the Metro livered examples going into storage ahead of their transfer to St Helens.
(25/08/2026 12:16)Y458 KNF Wrote: [ -> ]Low trees are an issues on the 14 so the MMCs are staying on them for the time being, it could also be a case of the Metro livered examples going into storage ahead of their transfer to St Helens.

Seems plausible that Metro examples could be getting a deep clean ready for St Helens with 10820-31 staying for use on the 14/14A until low trees sorted/10A defects to St Helens.
Does anyone know when 82416 will be back in service??
Given it was still at the back of St Helens depot last week it doesn't look like any time soon.
A surprise sight in Kirkby this morning was Manchester's 'magic bus' liveried 19287 on training duties.....assuming on loan as was GMT 19470 earlier in the year.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/55489756971

HTH
On the Bank Holiday I saw E400EVs on route 217a and rode one. So they do not merely operate routes into Liverpool city centre after all.

Given that Gillmoss + Green Lane is due to be awarded as a single franchise, the Arriva share of route 14 could move to GM, as could routes 12/13 and maybe route 18.

Routes 12/13/14 were at Gillmoss until Arriva were instructed to divest it to spare a referral of the MTL takeover. They were reallocated to GL to enable Arriva to retain these routes.
The 12/13/18 goes past the other end of Green Lane [less than 5 minutes from the depot] why it's more convenient to run the 12/13/18 from Green Lane, Gillmoss is quite distant from these routes, plus the 18 & 18C/D before it have always been operated by Green Lane.
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