(13/06/2026 11:33)Olympian2100 Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't it the case that St Helens is not getting electrified yet, so won't be able to run Electroliners, only diesel buses?
Also, on commencement of Franchising at St Helens, won't Arriva lose their share of the 10/10A services and they will be 100% Stagecoach from St Helens depot?
Indeed, I was predicting diesel E400MMCs from Gillmoss being held back and redeployed to St Helens if some Streetdecks are late. Yes, the GM share of route 10a is due to move to SH.
To clarify my other prediction, I think the Electroliners will generally run routes 14, 53, 82, 86 and 86c (but 10a only temporarily while it has a GM allocation) and Enviro 400 EVs on routes 17, 19, 20, 21 and derived routes.
I’m wondering what will the PVR at Gillmoss under franchising likely be as I don’t think 108 deckers will be enough for a full fleet.
(Today 12:24)Y458 KNF Wrote: [ -> ]I’m wondering what will the PVR at Gillmoss under franchising likely be as I don’t think 108 deckers will be enough for a full fleet.
The depot will lose vehicles as it will no longer work the 10/10A, which will be 100% operated from St Helens, the 53, which will be operated from Bootle by the Sefton Franchise winner and the Maghull Circulars, which will also be operated from Bootle by the Sefton Franchise winner.
(Today 14:11)Olympian2100 Wrote: [ -> ]The depot will lose vehicles as it will no longer work the 10/10A, which will be 100% operated from St Helens, the 53, which will be operated from Bootle by the Sefton Franchise winner and the Maghull Circulars, which will also be operated from Bootle by the Sefton Franchise winner.
Knew about the 10A but didn’t think about the 53 and Maghalls, makes a bit more sense then if you include the 20 hydrogen Enviro400 electric converts which I’m sure will all go to Gillmoss.
(Today 12:24)Y458 KNF Wrote: [ -> ]I’m wondering what will the PVR at Gillmoss under franchising likely be as I don’t think 108 deckers will be enough for a full fleet.
Don't forget Gillmoss and green Lane are 1 bid so you could see routes moving between the 2depots. Will be interesting if stagecoach win the green Lane and gillmoss tranche and having st helens too
(Today 15:01)chris-s Wrote: [ -> ]Don't forget Gillmoss and green Lane are 1 bid so you could see routes moving between the 2depots. Will be interesting if stagecoach win the green Lane and gillmoss tranche and having st helens too
If Arriva Merseyside lose Liverpool and the Sefton Franchise, will they close their Head Office on Ormskirk Road and move the Welsh operation to new offices in Wrexham or Llandudno?
All up to 82427 (except 82417/9/21) now in service, with 82426/7 making their debut today......
(Today 15:01)chris-s Wrote: [ -> ]Don't forget Gillmoss and green Lane are 1 bid so you could see routes moving between the 2depots. Will be interesting if stagecoach win the green Lane and gillmoss tranche and having st helens too
Has a date been set yet for the announcement of who’s won this franchise?