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Does anyone know what vehicles are going to operate the CH200/200, will it be vehicles from they're existing fleet or are the council likely to provide vehicles

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(22/04/2017 23:08)YK53 GXO Wrote:  Yes, while what you have posted is true - what isn't is your aforementioned post about 'the council paying for a decker'.

CWaC pay operators across the region a sum of money to carry scholars who are eligible for free travel assistance on their commercial services. The X2 service is included in this, with the pupils who travel from Ince/Elton to Helsby High. It is up to the operator to ensure that space is available for these students, as in effect CWaC have paid for a 'seat' on their bus. With the shear amount of students who use the X2 (both eligible and ineligible) - a decker was clearly what was needed to cope with the demand, therefore that was what was negotiated. I can assure you that no money is directly payed to Stagecoach in order for them to have specifically a double deck vehicle on those journeys, the money is paid for those journeys simply to keep operating.

So, indirectly, yes - the money that Stagecoach receive from the council for the students to travel could technically be used to fuel and operate the decker, and that is why the X2 service has been included in the spreadsheet along with other commercial services as 'subsided'.

The exact quote from the email is as follows: "In regard to your question on the supported elements for the Ellesmere Port – Runcorn section of X2, we support early and late journeys and school journeys technically between Elton and Helsby High School (you may note that double deckers are always on these particular journeys). The school journeys will be required for the foreseeable future to carry ‘eligible’ children and over 16’s.

I hope that this clarifies the small amount of support allocated to this service."

So they kind of pay for the decker but it could be as you say they just pay for a seat and they pay for around 40 seats so SC put a decker on simply so their passengers do not have to stand. Idk how many seats CWaCC pay for.

(23/04/2017 10:18)chester285 Wrote:  Does anyone know what vehicles are going to operate the CH200/200, will it be vehicles from they're existing fleet or are the council likely to provide vehicles
Personally I have not known CWaCC to provide vehicles. My guess is that they will operate the route using solos. It is unlikely that anything bigger will be used. I am unsure on the tender. I will sent a FOI to them today asking for the ITT.
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(23/04/2017 13:43)iMarkeh Wrote:  The exact quote from the email is as follows: "In regard to your question on the supported elements for the Ellesmere Port – Runcorn section of X2, we support early and late journeys and school journeys technically between Elton and Helsby High School (you may note that double deckers are always on these particular journeys). The school journeys will be required for the foreseeable future to carry ‘eligible’ children and over 16’s.

I hope that this clarifies the small amount of support allocated to this service."

So they kind of pay for the decker but it could be as you say they just pay for a seat and they pay for around 40 seats so SC put a decker on simply so their passengers do not have to stand. Idk how many seats CWaCC pay for.

Personally I have not known CWaCC to provide vehicles. My guess is that they will operate the route using solos. It is unlikely that anything bigger will be used. I am unsure on the tender. I will sent a FOI to them today asking for the ITT.
Cast your mind back to when Chester city transport was around chester city council as It was then supplied the solos for the then 41 to Whitchurch which were later returned to the council when first took over, some of which vehicles later found themselves with Gha

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(23/04/2017 10:18)chester285 Wrote:  Does anyone know what vehicles are going to operate the CH200/200, will it be vehicles from they're existing fleet or are the council likely to provide vehicles

It's the City Sightseeing service.
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(23/04/2017 22:06)Raawwwrrr! Wrote:  It's the City Sightseeing service.

No it isn't. It's a new CWaC funded service between the New Bus Exchange and Princess Street, providing a link between the Bus Station and the Market once it opens in a couple of months.

I believe the City Sightseeing service is registered as the 100.

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(23/04/2017 14:15)chester285 Wrote:  Cast your mind back to when Chester city transport was around chester city council as It was then supplied the solos for the then 41 to Whitchurch which were later returned to the council when first took over, some of which vehicles later found themselves with Gha

I have to admit, I do not remember that. Sorry.
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(23/04/2017 14:15)chester285 Wrote:  Cast your mind back to when Chester city transport was around chester city council as It was then supplied the solos for the then 41 to Whitchurch which were later returned to the council when first took over, some of which vehicles later found themselves with Gha

Indeed as Cheshire West & Chester gave them to GHA for several contracts

YM52 TPO - Into The Port (Green route 6)
YM52 TPU - Into The Port (Orange route 7)
YM52 TPV - Went to Via Travel in Crewe (not GHA)
YM52 TPX - DeeBee
YM52 TPY - Cheshire Connects (Arrived late from D&G)

That was all the ex CCT Solos
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