Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(25/02/2013 20:04)FirstGroup Wrote:  

(25/02/2013 14:57)Scania3379man Wrote:  19391 were park stand v is driver familarsation but no driver in the bus of enviro 400. a lot passenger were is in 632, 36801 and drive too fast at 14.15 to 14.30 but 4 mins late(ooops).

Thank you
Martyn

Was an Enviro400 on the X34 all day again today too.
Anyone know when stagecoach can start amending the services in wigan , i know there was a deal with First that they could not change anything for a certain amount of time ?

I think the Enviro400's are standing in for the Geminis while they get repainted. Once they're done they will return to their depots. In the summer the ex London tridents are moving from Stockport to Wigan, heralding the exit of the Geminis to East Midlands.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
Official statement on Stagecoach's website regarding the OFT's clearance for Wigan takeover:

http://otp.investis.com/clients/uk/stage...sid=315241

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(25/02/2013 20:16)MPTE1955 Wrote:  I think it supposed to be something like 3 months before changes could take place.

Correct although given the wait for a decision from the OFT, changes Stagecoach may have been planning will obviously be slightly delayed (the 3 month period by my calculation expires this weekend as the takeover occurred on 2nd December).

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(25/02/2013 20:24)ace Wrote:  

(25/02/2013 20:04)FirstGroup Wrote:  

(25/02/2013 14:57)Scania3379man Wrote:  19391 were park stand v is driver familarsation but no driver in the bus of enviro 400. a lot passenger were is in 632, 36801 and drive too fast at 14.15 to 14.30 but 4 mins late(ooops).

Thank you
Martyn

Was an Enviro400 on the X34 all day again today too.
Anyone know when stagecoach can start amending the services in wigan , i know there was a deal with First that they could not change anything for a certain amount of time ?

I think the Enviro400's are standing in for the Geminis while they get repainted. Once they're done they will return to their depots. In the summer the ex London tridents are moving from Stockport to Wigan, heralding the exit of the Geminis to East Midlands.

I honestly don't see the tridents getting out of Stockport. We always end up with the crappier portion of the good stuff.

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester
I would be surprised if the Tridents replace the Geminis. Stagecoach aren't known for going backwards in age terms...

I would expect the Tridents will replace the Arrows and Olympians.

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(25/02/2013 22:36)mbonwick Wrote:  I would be surprised if the Tridents replace the Geminis. Stagecoach aren't known for going backwards in age terms...

I would expect the Tridents will replace the Arrows and Olympians.

Although what if the rumour of having no double decker buses before 2007 in Manchester is true? This rumour was from a while a go but who knows?

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(26/02/2013 07:02)MX12EOC Wrote:  

(25/02/2013 22:36)mbonwick Wrote:  I would be surprised if the Tridents replace the Geminis. Stagecoach aren't known for going backwards in age terms...

I would expect the Tridents will replace the Arrows and Olympians.

Although what if the rumour of having no double decker buses before 2007 in Manchester is true? This rumour was from a while a go but who knows?

Yes it is true. And from 2023 onwards that will be the case...

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(26/02/2013 19:38)ace Wrote:  

(26/02/2013 07:02)MX12EOC Wrote:  

(25/02/2013 22:36)mbonwick Wrote:  I would be surprised if the Tridents replace the Geminis. Stagecoach aren't known for going backwards in age terms...

I would expect the Tridents will replace the Arrows and Olympians.

Although what if the rumour of having no double decker buses before 2007 in Manchester is true? This rumour was from a while a go but who knows?

Yes it is true. And from 2023 onwards that will be the case...

Yup :L it's 16 years under TfGM conditions, although from that rumour (again) it said next year seems like a bunch of BS but it could be true, we never know.

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(26/02/2013 21:49)MX12EOC Wrote:  

(26/02/2013 19:38)ace Wrote:  

(26/02/2013 07:02)MX12EOC Wrote:  Although what if the rumour of having no double decker buses before 2007 in Manchester is true? This rumour was from a while a go but who knows?

Yes it is true. And from 2023 onwards that will be the case...

Yup :L it's 16 years under TfGM conditions, although from that rumour (again) it said next year seems like a bunch of BS but it could be true, we never know.

If there were to be no buses in Manchester older than 2007, what would happen to the Magic Routes? I can't see 70 five year old buses suddenly being painted blue somehow. The Wigan fleet would then have to be turned upside down. Yes, there's been some new buses recently but there's still around 80 or so older than 2007. It may be possible that all Enviro400's will be 07 reg or newer, with a lot of older Enviro400's due for cascade soon, but as for the older end of the fleet, I think it may be some years yet before we see 100% 2007 or newer, unless of course the Green Bus Fund gives Manchester enough funds to buy around 150 or more new hybrids, which is slightly ambitious to put it mildly

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RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(26/02/2013 22:12)ace Wrote:  

(26/02/2013 21:49)MX12EOC Wrote:  

(26/02/2013 19:38)ace Wrote:  Yes it is true. And from 2023 onwards that will be the case...

Yup :L it's 16 years under TfGM conditions, although from that rumour (again) it said next year seems like a bunch of BS but it could be true, we never know.

If there were to be no buses in Manchester older than 2007, what would happen to the Magic Routes? I can't see 70 five year old buses suddenly being painted blue somehow. The Wigan fleet would then have to be turned upside down. Yes, there's been some new buses recently but there's still around 80 or so older than 2007. It may be possible that all Enviro400's will be 07 reg or newer, with a lot of older Enviro400's due for cascade soon, but as for the older end of the fleet, I think it may be some years yet before we see 100% 2007 or newer, unless of course the Green Bus Fund gives Manchester enough funds to buy around 150 or more new hybrids, which is slightly ambitious to put it mildly

Fine by me! XD