Warrington's Own Buses

[RSTurbo50]

RE: WBT Network Warrington

(16/11/2016 21:43)Valandil Wrote:  193 got out of the depot today.

It's being used on the Birchwood Park Shuttle..

[ant17612]

RE: WBT Network Warrington
Connect 17 Versa 96 has not long left Altrincham on the 5.

[Valandil]

RE: WBT Network Warrington

(18/11/2016 15:39)ant17612 Wrote:  Connect 17 Versa 96 has not long left Altrincham on the 5.

There often seems to be 1 on non-17 diagrams.
One was also on other routes including the 21 on Wednesday.

[RSTurbo50]

RE: WBT Network Warrington

(18/11/2016 15:39)ant17612 Wrote:  Connect 17 Versa 96 has not long left Altrincham on the 5.

Its sometimes used as the 5 'dupe' which basically means it runs 5 minutes ahead of the 15.35 number 5 from Altrincham Bus Station purely to pick the school kids up and relieving the pressure on the service.

[RSTurbo50]

RE: WBT Network Warrington

(19/11/2016 21:00)Dentonian Wrote:  Nowadays, duplicate journeys have to be registered and treated just like a normal journey. There are already 1530 & 1543 journeys on other services from stand E in Altrincham Interchange, paid for by the relevant Operators, so NW would not be allowed on stand between 1525 & 1548 inclusive with an additional 5 (or 35), so presumably it is starting at the first stop after the Interchange, or is racking up penalties every schoolday.

The 15.35 number 5 actually leaves from outside the grammar school, 5 mins ahead of the scheduled number 5...

[knutstransport]

RE: WBT Network Warrington
Are all the contracted services in Warrington operated by Network Warrington or are there any contracts which have been awarded to an operator other than Network Warrington?

[knutstransport]

RE: WBT Network Warrington

(19/11/2016 21:00)Dentonian Wrote:  Nowadays, duplicate journeys have to be registered and treated just like a normal journey. There are already 1530 & 1543 journeys on other services from stand E in Altrincham Interchange, paid for by the relevant Operators, so NW would not be allowed on stand between 1525 & 1548 inclusive with an additional 5 (or 35), so presumably it is starting at the first stop after the Interchange, or is racking up penalties every schoolday.

According to a D&G Bus driver there can be £50 fine imposed if buses arrive too early at Altrincham Interchange.

[Mayneway]

RE: WBT Network Warrington

(20/11/2016 14:30)knutstransport Wrote:  Are all the contracted services in Warrington operated by Network Warrington or are there any contracts which have been awarded to an operator other than Network Warrington?

Surly they have to be put out to tender and the lowest bidder wins. NW is run at arms length from the council so surly contracts should be treated in the same way as TFGM or Merseytravel would treat them.

[knutstransport]

RE: WBT Network Warrington

(20/11/2016 15:02)Dentonian Wrote:  I don't know about fines for arriving too early per se. The rationale behind the fines would be stop Operators going on stand too early, and blocking another bus from picking up passengers safely and punctually. The only logical argument against arriving considerably early, is that means the bus has probably left the previous timing point early, thus inconveniencing other passengers. Fining drivers/operators for arriving just a couple of minutes early is ridiculous as avoiding the fine would probably mean parking up at the previous stop, thus potentially resulting in a ticket from a Parking Warden, as well as frustrating passengers needing to get to the Interchange for connections or to walk to their final destination (especially workers on flexi-time).

With the new 88 times on a good day it is possible to leave a timing point on time and to arrive at the next one more than a minute or two early.

[knutstransport]

RE: WBT Network Warrington

(20/11/2016 15:30)Mayneway Wrote:  Surly they have to be put out to tender and the lowest bidder wins. NW is run at arms length from the council so surly contracts should be treated in the same way as TFGM or Merseytravel would treat them.

Not automatically lowest bidder, there has to be a quality score as well. It's easier for NW to include something like integrated ticketing or running multiple contracts as one through service