[Archive] Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(12/04/2016 17:05)jtd508110 Wrote:  So with 2 units out, no wonder they're hard pushed to get all of them into service it seems! Isn't it 16 required out of 20 sets so that leaves 2 for exam/spare?

Correct on the figures on a weekday

[YN05 WKE]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Any idea how long the 142's have got left...had 2 today between Chester and Knutsford and they both seemed tatty what did not help is the bits of gaffer tape on every notice blocking the old Northern Logo

Nice to see northern staff have not yet gained Arriva Uniforms yet either

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
142s withdrawn by the end of 2019 and new uniforms some way off yet before introduction

[childwallblues]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
319361 failed at St Helens Central yesterday morning whilst working the 0635 LIV-WGN. The problem was a fault on one of the doors which the crew could not rectify.
Passengers were de-trained to continue their journey on the following Preston service, which made additional stops at Garswood and Bryn. The unit moved forward to Wigan o return ecs to Liverpool.

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(12/04/2016 21:58)E208 WBG Wrote:  Any idea how long the 142's have got left...had 2 today between Chester and Knutsford and they both seemed tatty what did not help is the bits of gaffer tape on every notice blocking the old Northern Logo

Nice to see northern staff have not yet gained Arriva Uniforms yet either

(12/04/2016 22:13)Gordon V Wrote:  142s withdrawn by the end of 2019 and new uniforms some way off yet before introduction

September 2019 is when the last batch is expected to go. Even though Northern are getting additional cascaded trains from GWR and Thameslink by December 2017 they are needed to cover extra services so the Pacers won't start to be withdrawn until 2018 when new trains and cascades from Scotrail start arriving.

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
The Pacers going was a political decision to try and appease the north to say we are getting rid of the older trains .

The people in the north saw all the railway investment only ever going to the south east , even the south west must feel aggrieved at times as well.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(13/04/2016 10:44)wirralbus Wrote:  The Pacers going was a political decision to try and appease the north to say we are getting rid of the older trains .

The people in the north saw all the railway investment only ever going to the south east , even the south west must feel aggrieved at times as well.

Indeed, in fact it is possible that if there is a stock shortage anywhere in the country around 2018/2019, the South West could in theory end up with Northern's Pacers as a stop gap.

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Probably subject to some work being done to make them compliant with disability regs for 2020.

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(13/04/2016 12:23)wirralbus Wrote:  Probably subject to some work being done to make them compliant with disability regs for 2020.

There are no plans to make the Class 142s DDA compliant - only the Class 144s (and 143s)

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
I did not say they was going to be , I was just following on from what St Helens Rider was saying , if there was to be a major slippage in the new units.