Hanover Street closure!

[mr t]

Hanover Street closure!
Sounds like absolute chaos on the cards here Hanover Street closed for 8 weeks from Sunday, but cant say I have seen it advertised anywhere yet its not even on the Council roadworks site.

Hanover Street (city centre)

Routes 36, 75, 76, 79, 80, 80A, 80E, 82, 82B, 86, 86A, 86C and City Sightseeing are affected.

Hanover Street will be closed between, Bold Street and Gradwell Street from Sunday 1 March 2015 for approximately 8 weeks.

Bus diversions are as follows:

Route 36 will travel from Liverpool ONE Bus Station via Duke Street, Berry Street, Renshaw Street, Ranelagh Street, Great Charlotte Street, then as normal route.

Route 75 will travel as normal to Ranelagh Place to terminate and commence from Great Charlotte Street.

Route 76 (until 1800) will travel as normal to terminate at Lime Street. This service will commence from Great Charlotte Street.

Route 76 (after 1800) will travel as normal to London Road, then via Commutation Row, Churchill Way South, Dale Street, Water Street, Strand and Strand Street to Liverpool ONE Bus Station. This service will return from Liverpool ONE Bus Station via Duke Street, Berry Street, Renshaw Street, Ranelagh Street, Great Charlotte Street, then as normal route.

Route 79 (Monday - Saturday until 1800) will travel as normal to Brownlow Hill, then via Lime Street, then via Queen Square Bus Station and Crosshall Street to terminate at Dale Street. This service will commence from Victoria Street.

Route 79 (Monday - Saturday after 1800, and Sunday) will operate as normal.

Route 80 will travel as normal to Ranelagh Place to terminate and commence from Great Charlotte Street.

Route 80A will travel as normal to Ranelagh Place to terminate and commence from Great Charlotte Street.

Route 80E will travel as normal to Ranelagh Place to terminate and commence from Great Charlotte Street.

Route 82 will travel as normal to St James Place, then via St James Street, Park Lane, Liver Street and Price Street to Liverpool ONE Bus Station. This service will travel from Liverpool ONE Bus Station via Duke Street, Berry Street, Renshaw Street, Ranelagh Street, Great Charlotte Street, then as normal route.

Route 82B will travel as normal to Great George Street, then via Duke Street to Liverpool ONE Bus Station at terminate.

Route 86 (Arriva) will travel as normal to terminate at Renshaw Street. This service will commence from Elliot Street, then as normal route.

Route 86 (Stagecoach) will travel as normal to Leece Street, then via Berry Street, Duke Street to Liverpool ONE Bus Station. This service will return from Liverpool ONE Bus Station via Duke Street, Berry Street, Renshaw Street, Ranelagh Street, Great Charlotte Street, then as normal route.

Route 86A will travel as normal to terminate at Renshaw Street. This service will commence from Elliot Street, then as normal route.

Route 86C will travel as normal to Leece Street, then via Berry Street, Duke Street to Liverpool ONE Bus Station. This service will return from Liverpool ONE Bus Station via Duke Street, Berry Street, Renshaw Street, Ranelagh Street, Great Charlotte Street, then as normal route.

City Sightseeing will travel as normal to Rodney Street, then via Leece Street, Berry Street, Duke Street, Liverpool ONE Bus Station, then as normal route.

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Hanover Street closure!
There is a notice on Bus Stops on Hanover Street, Looks like Charlotte Street is going to be a huge Bus Car Park with so many Buses waiting until they are due out again!

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Hanover Street closure!
Seen this on a poster on a Stagecoach bus on the 10A earlier but the poster only mentioned the 86/86C.

[mr t]

RE: Hanover Street closure!
Its going be gridlocked with taxi drivers and van/delivery drivers as well as buses all fighting for space to park up! Im off on Monday so might come and have a look how bad it is. They said its open to Bold Street but thats shut off in the daytime so literally is the length of Hanover Street as there is no where else to go except turn around outside Central Station.

[Barney]

RE: Hanover Street closure!

(26/02/2015 23:10)mr t Wrote:  Its going be gridlocked with taxi drivers and van/delivery drivers as well as buses all fighting for space to park up! Im off on Monday so might come and have a look how bad it is. They said its open to Bold Street but thats shut off in the daytime so literally is the length of Hanover Street as there is no where else to go except turn around outside Central Station.

This issue was reported on local radio yesterday. Many callers laid the blame at Liverpool City Council for a lack of consultation and information when in fact the sole responsibility for publicising this disruption is the privatised company replacing the gas mains. Whoever is at fault, it will no doubt create problems for the travelling public.

I'd like to think that the Arriva services that will terminate early (outside Lewis's building) won't wait in the vicinity but will simply take up service immediately (in Great Charlotte Street/Elliot Street) and head out of the city as the north end Arriva services do in Queen Square and Sir Thomas Street.

[Raawwwrrr!]

RE: Hanover Street closure!

(27/02/2015 11:48)Barney Wrote:  This issue was reported on local radio yesterday. Many callers laid the blame at Liverpool City Council for a lack of consultation and information when in fact the sole responsibility for publicising this disruption is the privatised company replacing the gas mains. Whoever is at fault, it will no doubt create problems for the travelling public.

I'd like to think that the Arriva services that will terminate early (outside Lewis's building) won't wait in the vicinity but will simply take up service immediately (in Great Charlotte Street/Elliot Street) and head out of the city as the north end Arriva services do in Queen Square and Sir Thomas Street.

Legally services will not be able to do that unless the running boards are changed accordingly for the 8 weeks, whereby all timetables journeys depart the registered timing points at the correct time within a 6 minute headway.

[Barney]

RE: Hanover Street closure!

(27/02/2015 13:47)Raawwwrrr! Wrote:  Legally services will not be able to do that unless the running boards are changed accordingly for the 8 weeks, whereby all timetables journeys depart the registered timing points at the correct time within a 6 minute headway.

I'd like to think that common sense will prevail and the running boards will be amended for the duration as it is my understanding that this is what happens in other parts of this region whenever there is a lengthy road closure. IF the running boards are not changed it truly will be chaotic.

[wirralbus]

RE: Hanover Street closure!

(27/02/2015 14:14)Barney Wrote:  I'd like to think that common sense will prevail and the running boards will be amended for the duration as it is my understanding that this is what happens in other parts of this region whenever there is a lengthy road closure. IF the running boards are not changed it truly will be chaotic.

Oh this area of Gt Charlotte Street / Elliot Street will be utter chaos , even amended running boards may not work , just depends what traffic is like on each individual day.

Such an important road to be closed and how did the organisation doing the work manage to leave it so late in the day to tell everybody , businesses are furious .

[Barney]

RE: Hanover Street closure!

(27/02/2015 17:17)wirralbus Wrote:  Oh this area of Gt Charlotte Street / Elliot Street will be utter chaos , even amended running boards may not work , just depends what traffic is like on each individual day.

Such an important road to be closed and how did the organisation doing the work manage to leave it so late in the day to tell everybody , businesses are furious .

There is one drastic solution: ban all cars from entering Ranelagh, Elliot and Gt. Charlotte Streets between 7am -7pm. That might help. Just a thought.

[CX06 EBK (Administrator)]

RE: Hanover Street closure!
I think one problem with that is that is the way around the Lime Street bus lane which was one of those to survive the cull. Again it is just very poorly thought out.