Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

[Bevan Price]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(17/02/2013 20:18)MX12EOC Wrote:  Well, a rumour has emerged that stagecoach have bid on Bolton and Bury depots for £36,200,000 (appx) as well as that it may seem like monopolising the market as they are seeking advice from the OfT about putting a bid on Oldham and Cheetham Hill (Queens Road [I believe]) depots so there possibly won't be any existence of first in Greater Manchester. I've been told this (rumour I think it is) by a fairly reliable source. If I get any updates I'll keep you guys posted! (:

I would be very surprised if the OFT let Stagecoach acquire any more big operators / depots in the Manchester area.
If First actually wanted to sell, I think they would need to find an alternative buyer that has no, (or few) operations in the Manchester area.

[Wright Eclipse]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(17/02/2013 21:05)Bevan Price Wrote:  

(17/02/2013 20:18)MX12EOC Wrote:  Well, a rumour has emerged that stagecoach have bid on Bolton and Bury depots for £36,200,000 (appx) as well as that it may seem like monopolising the market as they are seeking advice from the OfT about putting a bid on Oldham and Cheetham Hill (Queens Road [I believe]) depots so there possibly won't be any existence of first in Greater Manchester. I've been told this (rumour I think it is) by a fairly reliable source. If I get any updates I'll keep you guys posted! (:

I would be very surprised if the OFT let Stagecoach acquire any more big operators / depots in the Manchester area.
If First actually wanted to sell, I think they would need to find an alternative buyer that has no, (or few) operations in the Manchester area.

only problem is - it seems stagecoach are the only ones with cash at the moment

[MX12EOC]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(17/02/2013 21:05)Bevan Price Wrote:  

(17/02/2013 20:18)MX12EOC Wrote:  Well, a rumour has emerged that stagecoach have bid on Bolton and Bury depots for £36,200,000 (appx) as well as that it may seem like monopolising the market as they are seeking advice from the OfT about putting a bid on Oldham and Cheetham Hill (Queens Road [I believe]) depots so there possibly won't be any existence of first in Greater Manchester. I've been told this (rumour I think it is) by a fairly reliable source. If I get any updates I'll keep you guys posted! (:

I would be very surprised if the OFT let Stagecoach acquire any more big operators / depots in the Manchester area.
If First actually wanted to sell, I think they would need to find an alternative buyer that has no, (or few) operations in the Manchester area.

Well, stagecoach would be able to fulfill the price of any depot in Manchester and keep it running to a high standard but I wouldn't see Arriva buying any depots in Manchester at the time being because they have one depot only in Wythenshawe (I believe) and they got rid of their Manchester depot. Though, I'm too quick to judge on this.

[Wright Eclipse]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(17/02/2013 21:16)MX12EOC Wrote:  

(17/02/2013 21:05)Bevan Price Wrote:  

(17/02/2013 20:18)MX12EOC Wrote:  Well, a rumour has emerged that stagecoach have bid on Bolton and Bury depots for £36,200,000 (appx) as well as that it may seem like monopolising the market as they are seeking advice from the OfT about putting a bid on Oldham and Cheetham Hill (Queens Road [I believe]) depots so there possibly won't be any existence of first in Greater Manchester. I've been told this (rumour I think it is) by a fairly reliable source. If I get any updates I'll keep you guys posted! (:

I would be very surprised if the OFT let Stagecoach acquire any more big operators / depots in the Manchester area.
If First actually wanted to sell, I think they would need to find an alternative buyer that has no, (or few) operations in the Manchester area.

Well, stagecoach would be able to fulfill the price of any depot in Manchester and keep it running to a high standard but I wouldn't see Arriva buying any depots in Manchester at the time being because they have one depot only in Wythenshawe (I believe) and they got rid of their Manchester depot. Though, I'm too quick to judge on this.

i guess theres Always EYMS/Finglands.mostly a modern fleet with very little that needs replacing,maybe they could go for queens road

[MX12EOC]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(17/02/2013 21:30)Wright Eclipse Wrote:  

(17/02/2013 21:16)MX12EOC Wrote:  

(17/02/2013 21:05)Bevan Price Wrote:  I would be very surprised if the OFT let Stagecoach acquire any more big operators / depots in the Manchester area.
If First actually wanted to sell, I think they would need to find an alternative buyer that has no, (or few) operations in the Manchester area.

Well, stagecoach would be able to fulfill the price of any depot in Manchester and keep it running to a high standard but I wouldn't see Arriva buying any depots in Manchester at the time being because they have one depot only in Wythenshawe (I believe) and they got rid of their Manchester depot. Though, I'm too quick to judge on this.

i guess theres Always EYMS/Finglands.mostly a modern fleet with very little that needs replacing,maybe they could go for queens road

Woah! Finglands, modern!? No offence but I barely see a modern bus on one of their routes!

[Wright Eclipse]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(17/02/2013 21:43)MX12EOC Wrote:  

(17/02/2013 21:30)Wright Eclipse Wrote:  

(17/02/2013 21:16)MX12EOC Wrote:  Well, stagecoach would be able to fulfill the price of any depot in Manchester and keep it running to a high standard but I wouldn't see Arriva buying any depots in Manchester at the time being because they have one depot only in Wythenshawe (I believe) and they got rid of their Manchester depot. Though, I'm too quick to judge on this.

i guess theres Always EYMS/Finglands.mostly a modern fleet with very little that needs replacing,maybe they could go for queens road

Woah! Finglands, modern!? No offence but I barely see a modern bus on one of their routes!

when i say modern - i ment low floor,DAA Compatible IE Dont need replacing.If they took on Queens road all thats needed is a good batch of ex-london buses done up like the did with EYMS Presidents

[motormayhem]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
19391 parked up in wigan bus stn in the lay over bay.

[ace]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
Roadworks are causing absolute chaos on Hyde Road at the moment. As if it wasn't bad enough to begin with, things are now even worse. Does anybody know how long they will go on for?
As a result of these Stockport are helping out on the 203, as far as the Bull's Head. All very well as long as you don't wish to get to Gorton or beyond.

[Nicholas]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
The works are due to last all week. Hyde Road is literally throwing everything they can that is spare to try and fill the gaps in service as in some cases buses are running TWO HOURS late!

[dave4jackie]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
with wigan depot withdrawingloads of the old buses what routes are more likely to see some of the old first buses on rather than new stagecoach ones round wigan