Transport for Wales Rail

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail

(13/06/2021 05:22)Metroline1511 Wrote:  These might be the ones that had been refurbished for the aborted Grand Central London - Blackpool service.

They are

[Metroline1511]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail

(13/06/2021 12:18)SK15 GZG Wrote:  They are

Thank you for letting me know. It is good that a use has been found for them.

Ironically, it means that trains no longer useful for Arriva Grand Central are now to be used on an ex-Arriva Trains Wales route.

[childwallblues]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail
New 197001 and 197002 have both been seen in the North West.
197001 has been noted in the Crewe area on test to Crewe and Stafford whilst 197002 is based at Chester Depot ans has been on test to Crewe, Llandudno Junction and Blaneau Ffestiniog. These units will be based at Chester Depot and will replace the 175s.

[boby32]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail
Class 197002 tested at Crewe station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyUK1eK3uyY

The same unit at Llandudno Junction station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMbwRxOkF7Y

[mikestone]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail
17.19 Lime St-Wrexham has a VAR schedule terminating at Chester.
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Journey check shows an 18.35 Chester-Wrexham additional - watching the map it looked as though the 17.19 split at Chester?

[SNL 824]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail
Anyone know why there were rail replacements on the Bidston line Thursday?

[iMarkeh]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail

(08/07/2021 23:57)SNL 824 Wrote:  Anyone know why there were rail replacements on the Bidston line Thursday?

What time?

I know that one round trip around midday at 12:34 to Bidston, 13:35 return is taken off day and replaced with 2 rail replacement buses (1 all stops, the other fast Shotton to Bidston). This is for testing the new Class 230 trains.

[SNL 824]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail

(09/07/2021 01:05)iMarkeh Wrote:  What time?

I know that one round trip around midday at 12:34 to Bidston, 13:35 return is taken off day and replaced with 2 rail replacement buses (1 all stops, the other fast Shotton to Bidston). This is for testing the new Class 230 trains.

That would explain it, but is the signalling so poor that such a measure is necessary? How will they ever run an increased frequency?

[mikestone]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail
https://sacuksprodnrdigital0001.blob.cor...20s22A.pdf
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The answer it seems is with great difficulty - the reference to a later path for 6V41 seems rather vague.
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This seems to bet yet another bid that has been accepted when re-letting a franchise and then rejected when they actually try to run it.

[wirralbus]

RE: Transport for Wales Rail
Bidston - Wrexham line service seems to be a line that is in the back of everyones mind .

How long are the signalling sections on the line between Bidston and Shotton , as this is the end of the line seems to struggle if the service gets behind time , when the service will run between Wrexham and Shotton , crossing over at Dee Marsh and returning back to Shotton.

In the 153 era , it was not unknown for both 153's to be connected and for the service to operate every 2 hours to give the service some more ooomph.

Also we had the silly timetable until recently were the service to Wrexham Central was given 62 minutes to complete the route , but hey presto something magical happened at Wrexham as the return working took 58 minutes , so if you add the running time together its 120 minutes with no recovery time whatsoever, hence the short running .

You can imagine the Tfw train crew not being in any hurry at certain times of the day as TfW control down in Cardiff would say this journey is terminating at Shotton with onward Coach service to Bidston , a bus service would take considerably longer and in the end would lose the goodwill of the passengers for Neston and Heswall , and to a lesser extent the least used station on Merseyside of Upton.