Greater Manchester Service Changes

[Y458 KNF]

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(13/03/2021 09:10)Michael Wrote:  No in London individual routes are franchised in Manchester its going to be entire depots with tfgm deciding which routes are run out of each depot.If I remember correctly there will be 10 depots across Greater Manchester each with 120 buses.25 small franchises which can be run by small companies although the bigger companies can also bid for these as well,& also the schools

Im assuming all vehicles will be in TfGM spec then?

[Mrboo]

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(13/03/2021 09:10)Michael Wrote:  No in London individual routes are franchised in Manchester its going to be entire depots with tfgm deciding which routes are run out of each depot.If I remember correctly there will be 10 depots across Greater Manchester each with 120 buses.25 small franchises which can be run by small companies although the bigger companies can also bid for these as well,& also the schools

And the depots maybe not be the current as you would think open plan depots would make sense so they can fit charging points for buses. Don't think placed like mumps and Hyde road would be able to fit them in

[Rodney259]

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(13/03/2021 09:43)Mrboo Wrote:  And the depots maybe not be the current as you would think open plan depots would make sense so they can fit charging points for buses. Don't think placed like mumps and Hyde road would be able to fit them in

Of course they won’t use the current depots. Why not increase the cost, it’s not their money they will be wasting only the local taxpayers! It does grow on trees after all!

[knutstransport]

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(11/03/2021 17:58)SF07 Wrote:  D&G Bus changes for April 2021 (from their website):

Service 88 will have minor timetable changes at peak times.
Service 89 will be reduced on weekday afternoons.

88 'minor changes' sees a morning peak departure from Altrincham being re-timed to depart 25 minutes later meaning it arrives in Wilmslow after 9am, instead of before 9am. As this is the Greater Manchester thread the other changes probably aren't relevant here as they effect which services continue beyond Knutsford and where they go. Someone from Altrincham/Hale would be better off changing at Wilmslow if they want Macclesfield or using the train if they want Northwich.

[knutstransport]

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(13/03/2021 09:10)Michael Wrote:  No in London individual routes are franchised in Manchester its going to be entire depots with tfgm deciding which routes are run out of each depot.If I remember correctly there will be 10 depots across Greater Manchester each with 120 buses.25 small franchises which can be run by small companies although the bigger companies can also bid for these as well,& also the schools

Have they allowed for operators in Greater Manchester running non-franchised services either in addition to the franchise requirements or for contracts not awarded by TfGM? My understanding is the 88 and 391/392 will not be affected by Greater Manchester franchising but it would be logical if an operator had a depot in Altrincham or Stockport that they could bid for the Cheshire East contract and run it from the same depot.

[knutstransport]

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(13/03/2021 09:38)darylyates17 Wrote:  Im assuming all vehicles will be in TfGM spec then?

Obvious question is will it be like London where all buses are the same colour or will it be like National Express coaches where the normal vehicles are in the correct livery but occasionally other vehicles will get used?

[Y458 KNF]

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(13/03/2021 10:59)knutstransport Wrote:  Obvious question is will it be like London where all buses are the same colour or will it be like National Express coaches where the normal vehicles are in the correct livery but occasionally other vehicles will get used?

That’s exactly what I’m on about I’m guessing they’ll be in some kind of TfGM livery similar to the old GM Buses livery or Selnec.

[Michael]

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(13/03/2021 10:40)Rodney259 Wrote:  Of course they won’t use the current depots. Why not increase the cost, it’s not their money they will be wasting only the local taxpayers! It does grow on trees after all!

They are going to use the current depots according to senior managers at the depot i work at

[NorthernCounties]

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(13/03/2021 12:20)Michael Wrote:  They are going to use the current depots according to senior managers at the depot i work at

That's the plan for major operators but small.operators will keep ownership of their own depots.

In relation to a standard livery, its far more likely they'll keep the yellow and silver of Metrolink

[Mikeonthebuses]

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(13/03/2021 12:28)NorthernCounties Wrote:  That's the plan for major operators but small.operators will keep ownership of their own depots.

In relation to a standard livery, its far more likely they'll keep the yellow and silver of Metrolink

I was thinking it would good to use the same livery as the trams but with an orange front but I have also thought it would be good idea to have a group of colours depending on the route type to make the buses more accessible and separate the different services but the metrolink would look nice on buses