Arriva North West - St Helens Depot

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RE: Arriva North West - St Helens Depot

(10/07/2014 09:30)Dentonian Wrote:  Have you got statistical proof that "Manchester has a significantly higher rate of crime than Liverpool?

http://www.police.uk/greater-manchester/...comparison

From the Police website, showing that Manchester had a crime rate of 99.66 versus 91.29 for Liverpool. Due to its very high level of drug offences, Liverpool's crime rate is higher than it would be when for violence, burglary, robbery and theft it is far lower than Manchester. Liverpool was named the second safest large city in the UK in 2012.

FC Pictures Wrote:Bus fares are not usually set by how deprived an area may be that a route passes thru, fares won`t go down,and who is priced out of using the bus,why would someone be using a bus service to Liverpool ? .either for work or shopping, if you have no money the bus fare is the least of your problems ,you wont need any bus even if the fare was 50p. i wasn`t aware that Liscard and Greasby were deprived either.

I don't know Greasby, but Liscard certainly is deprived. Not having any money is hardly the point: there are people who do have money and are unable to afford to travel by bus to Liverpool due to the high fares. You intimated that the £5 day ticket was good value and the extortionate Cross River single fare didn't matter because most people would be making a return journey. I'm arguing that, while for those who would use it like a travelcard and travel on various different bus routes during a day, it certainly is good value, for those who want a simple Wallasey to Liverpool return journey (the overwhelming majority of 432/433 passengers), it is overly expensive.

As for the 10, quite a few people have now correctly pointed out how busy this route is at peak times. This frequency reduction further highlights the need for better capacity, although it does allow the proposed figure of 23 deckers for the 10/10A corridor to make sense.