[Archive] Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(25/04/2016 06:09)RedPanda Wrote:  Do we know what the most common reason for a failure with the 319's?

Various reasons although in these two cases power related problems

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(25/04/2016 06:06)Gordon V Wrote:  Another day,more 319 failures,319368 failed meaning the 0633 Lime St-Wigan and 0731 Wigan-Lime St were cancelled and 319379 failed meaning that the 0602 Man Vic-Lime St was cancelled

The diagram on which 319 368 failed is the same one which another 319 failed on one day last week - commuters heading to Liverpool from stations on the Wigan must be feeling very unlucky.

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(25/04/2016 07:36)St Helens Rider Wrote:  The diagram on which 319 368 failed is the same one which another 319 failed on one day last week - commuters heading to Liverpool from stations on the Wigan must be feeling very unlucky.

There is now a 156(421) on the Lime St-Man Air-Lime St route due to both the afforementioned 319s failing

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
The 11.31 Train ofc St Helens Junction to Manchester Airporthas been cancelled, Another 319 failed?

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(25/04/2016 10:32)T42 PVM Wrote:  The 11.31 Train of:c St Helens Junction to Manchester Airporthas been cancelled, Another 319 failed?

All linked to the 2x319 failure already mentioned

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(25/04/2016 10:37)Gordon V Wrote:  All linked to the 2x319 failure already mentioned

Cheers Gordon

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Does anyone know when the 12 extra class 319 will come?

One idea is that the class 321 and class 322 could be used on the Liverpool services when the class 331 will be delivered.

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Well its getting exasperation time with these class 319's the PPM must now be taking a healthy dive.

Was Thameslink , First capital Connect and TSGN having the same problems with the 319's ?

I have heard that London Midland has also had an unhappy time with there 319's as well

[CX54 DKD (Moderator)]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(25/04/2016 17:09)boby32 Wrote:  One idea is that the class 321 and class 322 could be used on the Liverpool services when the class 331 will be delivered.

Won't happen; they're going off lease from Northern.

(25/04/2016 20:16)wirralbus Wrote:  Was Thameslink , First capital Connect and TSGN having the same problems with the 319's ?

Their engineering teams were more used to them. The Allerton team were obviously new to them and on top of that, they had some traction work done before entering service up here (which is proving horribly unreliable) so even though Northern employed a senior Thameslink engineer to come and oversee the maintenance of the 319s, he's unable to do much more either due to the differences.

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(12/04/2016 11:40)Gordon V Wrote:  319376 was involved in the electrocution incident of a worker at the depot about 6 weeks ago,319374 has been out of service since just before Christmas 2015 with a fault which so far hasn't been repaired

Any news about 319374 and 319376?