Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3

[moreton407]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3

(14/05/2024 18:42)Rodney259 Wrote:  Correction! Tax payers money, locally and Nationally

EXACTLY! And it's going to take more than a £2 bus fare to recoup all that money back. More like higher council tax and less money for more important things like pot holes etc!

[Owl]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3

(14/05/2024 23:42)moreton407 Wrote:  EXACTLY! And it's going to take more than a £2 bus fare to recoup all that money back. More like higher council tax and less money for more important things like pot holes etc!

Absolutely right. Most of the investment that Burnham is claiming the credit for, and the subsidy for the £2 fare, is central government money. There is no magic pot of money to cover the running costs going forward, so council tax payers in GM will have to fund it.

[knutstransport]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3

(14/05/2024 09:32)moreton407 Wrote:  but with the BeeLine repaint it's all going to be done quite quickly

Quicker may be more cost effective due to bulk discount on a large order of paint.

[moreton407]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3
In a report on the BBC News website entitled "What happens when councils take control of buses", it states:

"Greater Manchester Combined Authority calculated it would cost £134.5m to bring the region’s buses under public control and has made use of central government funding as part of its devolution deal to pay for this.

The process has been implemented in phases and is due to be completed in 2025 but Labour mayor Andy Burnham says there have been immediate improvements including more frequent buses, later and earlier services and better connections to trains and trams.

Transport for Greater Manchester says the latest data shows its buses are now more reliable, with passenger numbers up."

[knutstransport]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3
Not sure where to post this given the photo shows Bee Network branded buses with the TfGM logo.

There was a collision between two deckers in Manchester this morning, both vehicles have suffered significant damage and 13 people were taken to hospital.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmzezlyr2zo

[Metroline1511]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3

(09/11/2024 11:21)knutstransport Wrote:  Not sure where to post this given the photo shows Bee Network branded buses with the TfGM logo.

There was a collision between two deckers in Manchester this morning, both vehicles have suffered significant damage and 13 people were taken to hospital.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmzezlyr2zo

As they both look to be Stagecoach buses, this could have otherwise gone in the Stagecoach Manchester thread.

Sad and unpleasant for the people being injured as a result though.

[knutstransport]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3
The close up image and video showing one of the vehicles being towed wasn't there earlier. It looks like the update has increased the number of people taken to hospital by 4 unfortunately.

[Jack]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3
The timetables or at least most of them are now on the Bee Network website.
https://tfgm.com/the-bee-network/bus-ser...uary-2025-

The current Arriva 18 and 19 are being renumbered 248 and 249. Also current Stagecoach 74 renumbered 76B.

[knutstransport]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3
It's not that easy to find the new timetables on the TfGM site - you'd think they'd link the routes in the list to the timetable pages!

If you go to bus times it's showing a link to the new TfGM timetables on the relevant pages e.g. on the X5 page there's links to the new 279 and 288 timetables.
https://bustimes.org/services/x5-warring...lwall-part

(Note they have decided Lymm to Altrincham will be 279 not 289 as was posted on the Warrington's Own Buses website).

[KXW212]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising Tranche 3
256 (Flixton - Lostock - Stretford - Hulme - Piccadilly Gardens)
Monday to Saturday evening: Two additional late evening journeys to keep a half hourly frequency to last bus.
Saturday daytime: First Saturday morning journey from Flixton retimed to give a better connection at Eccles with early trams towards Manchester.
Saturday evening: Last evening journey to depart at 2350 from Manchester to give a better connection at Eccles with late trams from Manchester for onward journeys towards Flixton.

'Better connection at Eccles', Really !. That's some diversion.