Old Liverpool Routes

[skelmersey]

RE: Old Liverpool Routes

(27/09/2013 07:07)MPTE1955 Wrote:  

(27/09/2013 05:13)skelmersey Wrote:  

(26/09/2013 07:17)MPTE1955 Wrote:  Depends how far back you want to go, pre de-reg there was a ribble 365 that used to go Skelmersdale - Liverpool, going out through Wango Lane up to Aintree. Think there used to be a 306 that went Waddicar Lane, through to Aintree as well, think that was Ormskirk-Liverpool but can't quite remember for certain. Later a while after de-reg, the 365 went and changed to 355 but didnt go Aintree buy North Western re-routed the 345 to go through Kirkby, and then back on normal route when it went back through Waddicar Lane.

The 365 was axed on D-day when the 355 was introduced, prior to the 365 the 305 ran instead running up Aintree lane to Bull bridge lane re-joining 345 route to Skem.

Such a shame these services have long gone they were well used in their heyday, would re-regulation be a bad thing??!!

Knew the 365 had gone quickly, didn't realise it was instant, as for 305, well that is before my time. With the 306, I remember Merseybus doing a Kirkby-Ormskirk for a bit, they always used to use the buses with the experimental Dark Green Colours, which at GM was 1955 or 1957.

I know this as I went home from Skelhorne st on Sunday 26 October, remember passengers waiting at the shops opposite black bull only to see the bus veer right towards Fazakerley, no one knew about the new services and routes, mayhem!!

[MPTE1955]

RE: Old Liverpool Routes

(28/09/2013 14:57)skelmersey Wrote:  

(27/09/2013 07:07)MPTE1955 Wrote:  

(27/09/2013 05:13)skelmersey Wrote:  The 365 was axed on D-day when the 355 was introduced, prior to the 365 the 305 ran instead running up Aintree lane to Bull bridge lane re-joining 345 route to Skem.

Such a shame these services have long gone they were well used in their heyday, would re-regulation be a bad thing??!!

Knew the 365 had gone quickly, didn't realise it was instant, as for 305, well that is before my time. With the 306, I remember Merseybus doing a Kirkby-Ormskirk for a bit, they always used to use the buses with the experimental Dark Green Colours, which at GM was 1955 or 1957.

I know this as I went home from Skelhorne st on Sunday 26 October, remember passengers waiting at the shops opposite black bull only to see the bus veer right towards Fazakerley, no one knew about the new services and routes, mayhem!!

No doubt there was a lot of confused passengers in the weeks that followed on that route, that said there was loads of changes instantly after de-reg and reliability was pretty appaling for a while after.

[L80]

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(21/05/2013 18:03)Matrix Wrote:  It ran every 30 min taking the 110 route to Widnes, then Dundalk Rd before picking up the 82A route, would be handy link for South Liverpool and Airport from Warrington today....think it stopped around 92, I know it ran only for a couple of years if that.

Sounds a bit like the old Crosville H1

[MTL0201]

RE: Old Liverpool Routes

(28/09/2013 17:50)MPTE1955 Wrote:  No doubt there was a lot of confused passengers in the weeks that followed on that route, that said there was loads of changes instantly after de-reg and reliability was pretty appaling for a while after.

The first wave of changes after d-reg was end of January 87, as there was a 3 month setting in period, same time Crosville Liverpool depot was closed down after a strike.

I do remember the 345/355 going to Wigan via the 395 from Skem, caught the 355 through to Wigan one Saturday, then caught one of the GM Buses route to St Helens, it wasn't the 320m one of those 6xx routes that served Garswood using the Leopard that was new to LUT.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Old Liverpool Routes
The only GM Buses route into St Helens that used Leopards at that time I think was the 661 via Golborne and Earlestown, didn't go via Garswood, think it was Shearings that went that way.

[MPTE1955]

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(03/07/2018 14:14)MTL0201 Wrote:  The first wave of changes after d-reg was end of January 87, as there was a 3 month setting in period, same time Crosville Liverpool depot was closed down after a strike.

I do remember the 345/355 going to Wigan via the 395 from Skem, caught the 355 through to Wigan one Saturday, then caught one of the GM Buses route to St Helens, it wasn't the 320m one of those 6xx routes that served Garswood using the Leopard that was new to LUT.

No, some changes were instant, where I lived the changed literally straight away, including the afore mentioned 365. I can think of loads of changes, that were straight away.

[MTL0201]

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(03/07/2018 17:20)MPTE1955 Wrote:  No, some changes were instant, where I lived the changed literally straight away, including the afore mentioned 365. I can think of loads of changes, that were straight away.

That was at d-reg itself, the next raft of changes after that could only take place from the end of January 87 onwards.

Been looking at this https://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/84...6/sizes/k/ what strikes me is the Kirkby area number scheme introduced in either 1979 or 80 most of the regular all day routes in the Kirkby area got renumbered 150 to 159 series

150/152 Kirkby Civic Centre-Westvale-Northwood Circular
151 Kirkby Admin-Tower Hill
153 Kirkby Admin-Kirkby Station
154 Central Bus Station-Gilmoss/Northwood
155 Tower Hill-Pier Head
156 Tower Hill-Walton
157 Northwood-Pier Head
158 Southdene-Walton
159 Tower Hill-Broad Lane

Some buses were built with 4 track number blinds incase the PTE added letters to the numbers, preserved Atlantean 1836 is one such bus, the number scheme was withdrawn at d-reg.

[MPTE1955]

RE: Old Liverpool Routes

(03/07/2018 17:53)MTL0201 Wrote:  That was at d-reg itself, the next raft of changes after that could only take place from the end of January 87 onwards.

Been looking at this https://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/84...6/sizes/k/ what strikes me is the Kirkby area number scheme introduced in either 1979 or 80 most of the regular all day routes in the Kirkby area got renumbered 150 to 159 series

150/152 Kirkby Civic Centre-Westvale-Northwood Circular
151 Kirkby Admin-Tower Hill
153 Kirkby Admin-Kirkby Station
154 Central Bus Station-Gilmoss/Northwood
155 Tower Hill-Pier Head
156 Tower Hill-Walton
157 Northwood-Pier Head
158 Southdene-Walton
159 Tower Hill-Broad Lane

Some buses were built with 4 track number blinds incase the PTE added letters to the numbers, preserved Atlantean 1836 is one such bus, the number scheme was withdrawn at d-reg.

Yes those kirkby numbers got changed at about the same time as the VBG - V nationals came as they were mainly used on the Kirkby Circulars so 79/80 would be about right. It was some if not all the T/V East Lancs Atlanteans came with the 4 track number blinds.

[MTL0201]

RE: Old Liverpool Routes

(03/07/2018 18:27)MPTE1955 Wrote:  Yes those kirkby numbers got changed at about the same time as the VBG - V nationals came as they were mainly used on the Kirkby Circulars so 79/80 would be about right. It was some if not all the T/V East Lancs Atlanteans came with the 4 track number blinds.

The Metrobuses 0019-0023 had 4 track blinds as well, also 0024-0028 Willowbrook Dominators even though the Dominators went to Speke.

[MPTE1955]

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(03/07/2018 18:55)MTL0201 Wrote:  The Metrobuses 0019-0023 had 4 track blinds as well, also 0024-0028 Willowbrook Dominators even though the Dominators went to Speke.

Yes, I was thinking that the metrobuses might have had, wouldn't really have known about the dominators