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RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Birkenhead, Chester & Wrexham - DVL418 - 12/11/2012 12:16

Here is some info about it anyway

http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/archive/12587-stagecoach-expands-nw-bus-network.html


RE: First Chester & Wirral - R557 ABA - 12/11/2012 13:11

(12/11/2012 11:50)Southernsofty Wrote:  More good news, the pink and purple Evil Empire shrinks again!
Not very familiar with these areas, hoping that the First vehicle fleets don't have many modern vehicles (post 2001) so S/C will have to replace all of them in the next few years.
Would be nice if First transferred out any modern vehicles and moved in old vehicles before the takeover.

The vast majority of the Chester & Wirral is made up of mainly R, S, T registered vehicles a few X then 53 onwards so it's not as if they've got the modernest fleet around, compared to the likes of Stagecoach and Arriva.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Birkenhead, Chester & Wrexham - cumbria0902150 - 12/11/2012 13:38

For your speculation, you can almost certainly include the stored B10L's and B10BLE's at Gillmoss (there was a reason they were held in reserve rather than moving to disposal after the Olympics), which will make a nice dent into the Scania fleet for the time being until newer more suitable vehicles are found.


RE: First Chester & Wirral - plannerman - 12/11/2012 15:55

(12/11/2012 11:48)Southernsofty Wrote:  Would be nice if First transferred out any modern vehicles and moved in old vehicles before the takeover.

Aren't the Park & Ride 09-reg Volvos owned by CWaC? Presumably they'll be staying, if that's the case


RE: First Chester & Wirral - chester285 - 12/11/2012 15:56

(12/11/2012 15:55)plannerman Wrote:  
(12/11/2012 11:48)Southernsofty Wrote:  Would be nice if First transferred out any modern vehicles and moved in old vehicles before the takeover.

Aren't the Park & Ride 09-reg Volvos owned by CWaC? Presumably they'll be staying, if that's the case

I think the volvos are actually owned by first as when they won the contract, they diverted the from new,


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Birkenhead, Chester & Wrexham - V671 DVU - 12/11/2012 16:01

I think Stagecoach will do an excellent job at Chester & Wirral in my opinion, hopefully we'll see something like they did with GTL and radically turn around the operation in just 5 or so years.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Birkenhead, Chester & Wrexham - chester285 - 12/11/2012 16:09

(12/11/2012 16:01)V671 DVU Wrote:  I think Stagecoach will do an excellent job at Chester & Wirral in my opinion, hopefully we'll see something like they did with GTL and radically turn around the operation in just 5 or so years.

I have to agree, unfortunately First tended to make promises the could'nt keep by looking after the services in Chester, the sooner they have gone the better to be honest


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Birkenhead, Chester & Wrexham - Garsty - 12/11/2012 16:36

I like the fact they have confirmed Wrexham, as I was half expecting that not to be made clear at the initial announcement.

Interesting times, whilst I did not which First any bad (Like some people around the web do), I do think that Stagecoach have the potential to do some good things with this purchase.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Birkenhead, Chester & Wrexham - First Class - 12/11/2012 16:37

I truly hope they DON'T do the same as they did at Gillmoss.

Fair enough they replaced old with new, but much smaller buses which led to, and still is, causing chronic overcrowding.

The 1 and 2 could be fantastic "premium" routes for Stagecoach, if we end up with Darts then the route is doomed.

They are presumably going to need a fairly large double decker fleet of some description on the Wirral, especially for the 471/472 and schools.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Birkenhead, Chester & Wrexham - Garsty - 12/11/2012 16:42

I have always thought that is what Chester needs, a more 'upmarket', perhaps a ‘Goldline’ type bus service. At the end of the day the car rules in Chester, both a combination of greater wealth and also how the road system actually works, which makes driving pleasant and easy, does not help in convincing people to use the bus instead.