Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

[P528LND]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
I mean all of those that are within Greater Manchester's fleet, they all definitely have a ZF 6 speed 'EcoLife' transmission

[thomasl1231]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(22/02/2014 13:50)P528LND Wrote:  I mean all of those that are within Greater Manchester's fleet, they all definitely have a ZF 6 speed 'EcoLife' transmission

You are correct P528LND. You can tell a Voith from a ZF easily.

Voiths always have a high pitched sort of 'wine' sound, especially in idle. This also tends to also be a feature with the engines anyway on newer Enviro 400s so it makes the ZF sound like Voiths. Voiths also tend to rev higher too, especially with 2007 and previous once which have kick-down enabled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FKWoNhTqjE is a good example of a Voith one that I've got.

ZF EcoLifes tend to be slower than Voiths, and with a lot less of the whine sound. You can tell easily as they don't usually rev too high, and they also tend to have 'jerky' transmissions in first gear, which is something to do with how the torque converter works on EcoLifes I've been told. You tend to hear a lot more eninge sound on them, similarly to B9TLs with the Wright Gemini bodywork. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsCX9ZiEtp8 which is one of the SN12 batch which I've been on. The Voiths sound a lot better in my opinion!!! Can't be doing with EcoLifes! :P

[VolvoB10M]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
You where right they are ZF, I always thought they had a Voith wine to them. Are the Enviro300's (e.g. 67403) ZF or are they Voith like the vehicles in Wigan (e.g. 27818).

Also noticed 80022 early Friday morning in Piccadilly just about to start on the 203.

[P528LND]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(22/02/2014 19:30)VolvoB10M Wrote:  You where right they are ZF, I always thought they had a Voith wine to them. Are the Enviro300's (e.g. 67403) ZF or are they Voith like the vehicles in Wigan (e.g. 27818).

Also noticed 80022 early Friday morning in Piccadilly just about to start on the 203.

They are too, in fact if you listen carefully you can sometimes hear 'Ecomat' style whining to them!

I must admit the Cummins engines do give off a very Voith-like murmur, and the ZF Ecolife gearbox doesn't give many clues...

[SF07]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
Stagecoach vehicle attacked and had a window smashed whilst operating a Metrolink replacement bus service on Friday evening. No identification as to which vehicle it was.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/n...rs-6736611

[SF07]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
News of the closure of Oldham Road in Ashton on the TfGM website:

http://www.tfgm.com/Corporate/media_cent...icleId=404

[M60lad]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
Are Stagecoach planning on putting any extra vehicles on 168/169s for the duration of the diversion in Ashton due to the extra time its going to take the routes to get to Ashton

[M60lad]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
The following Enviro 400s have now been transferred to Northampton and are now down there being prepped for service there:

19004 MX06XAC 19055 MX56FSE
19063 MX56FSP 19077. MX56FTP
19092 MX56PHF

[james]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(25/02/2014 07:02)M60lad Wrote:  Are Stagecoach planning on putting any extra vehicles on 168/169s for the duration of the diversion in Ashton due to the extra time its going to take the routes to get to Ashton

the 168/9 div route is approx 4 mins extra inbound to ashton (non stop from taunton road) and its normal route outbound so i doubt it

[ace]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(25/02/2014 08:44)M60lad Wrote:  The following Enviro 400s have now been transferred to Northampton and are now down there being prepped for service there:

19004 MX06XAC 19055 MX56FSE
19063 MX56FSP 19077. MX56FTP
19092 MX56PHF

I'm sure everyone at Ashton was very sad to see them go