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RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - SF07 - 08/07/2022 16:42

Stagecoach have posted their summer and post-summer changes.

Summer changes will see the holiday timetables coming in with some services having an overall reduction of frequency on Monday-Saturday journeys.

Post-summer changes will see the normal frequencies restored. In addition, the 56 (Higher Blackley-Manchester circular) will be withdrawn, the 147 is reduced to half-hourly with extra journeys on the 143, while the 201/203 are increased to every 10 minutes on each route.

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/manchester/timetable-changes-from-sunday-24th-july-2022
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/manchester/timetable-changes-from-sunday-4th-september-2022

RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - Manc93 - 08/07/2022 21:12

a lot of Stagecoach drivers are going down to the Commonwealth games in Birmingham over the next few weeks.

RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - M60lad - 09/07/2022 05:08

Not just Stagecoach Drivers but I've heard quite a number of Stagecoach vehicles are going down to help out with Commonwealth Games.

RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - SF07 - 04/08/2022 15:40

Some details about the number of services that are being proposed to be withdrawn in October 2022. This is being put down to the withdrawal of government funding to help bus services during the Covid pandemic. They are mainly First and Stagecoach service with some from others, such as Diamond and Transdev. Several services are being put out to tender, which may mean the current operator will continue to run the service on behalf of TfGM.

Deregistered and put out to tender:
  • 1/2 Wigan (Stagecoach)
  • 6 Rochdale (First)
  • 7 Stockport (Stagecoach)
  • 11A (Stagecoach)
  • 81 (First)
  • 103 (Stagecoach)
  • 150 (Stagecoach)
  • 180 (First)
  • 181/182 (First)
  • 237 (Stagecoach) - final awarded option subject to Derbyshire County Council
  • 313 (Stagecoach)
  • 328 (Stagecoach)
  • 358 (Stagecoach) - final awarded option subject to Derbyshire County Council
  • 378/379 (Stagecoach)
  • 480 (Transdev)
  • 507 (Diamond)
  • 511 (Diamond)
  • 533 (Diamond)
  • 571/572 (Diamond)
  • 597 (Diamond)
  • 635 (Diamond)
  • X50 (Stagecoach)

Deregistered and direct award:
  • 5/5A (Warrington's Own Buses) - subject to Warrington Borough Council
  • 28 (Warrington's Own Buses) - subject to Warrington Borough Council
  • 42B (Stagecoach) - part
  • 56 (Stagecoach)
  • 322 (Stagecoach)
  • R3 (Transdev)

Deregistered and no action taken:
  • 108 (Stagecoach) - only runs weekday mornings
  • X58 (Stagecoach) - route mostly covered by service 256
  • X84 (First) - route mostly covered by services 84 and 350

Frequency reductions/journeys withdrawn
  • 3/4 Wigan (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 5/6 Wigan (Stagecoach) - Evenings and early mornings deregistered - direct award
  • 9 Wigan (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 10 Manchester (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 10/10A Wigan (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 11 (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 21/22 (Diamond) - Evening frequency reduced - direct award
  • 23 (Stagecoach) - Early mornings deregistered - direct award
  • 59 (First) - Frequency reduced - no action
  • 147 (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - no action
  • 197 (Stagecoach) - Early mornings deregistered - direct award
  • 245 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 250 (Stagecoach) - Sunday frequency reduced - direct award
  • 247 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 253/255 (Stagecoach) - Peak frequency reduction - direct award
  • 256 (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 263 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 314 (Stagecoach) - Evenings deregistered and frequency reduction - direct award
  • 350 (First) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 352 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 360 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 368 (Stagecoach) - Sundays deregistered and frequency reduced - direct award (Sundays may be tendered)
  • 375/395 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 383/384 (Stagecoach) - Evenings deregistered - direct award
  • 425 (First) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 534 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 541 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award

Route curtailments
  • 8 (Diamond) - terminates at St Marys Gate instead of Shudehill
  • 20 (Diamond)
  • 85A (Stagecoach)

https://democracy.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/documents/s22177/GMTC%2020220812%20Bus%20Network%20Review.pdf

RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - Mikeonthebuses - 04/08/2022 16:13

The 8 curtailment to St Mary's Gate will just kill this long-running service. As it currently provides excellent connections to Megabus, Metrolink and Other Local Services. It a bad decision by whoever suggested it.

RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - T42 PVM - 04/08/2022 23:36

[*]28 (Warrington's Own Buses) - subject to Warrington Borough Council

typo here as says the 28 is Wigan - Warrington but its Leigh to Warrington, could mean the 22A

RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - Mikeonthebuses - 05/08/2022 05:17

(04/08/2022 23:36)T42 PVM Wrote:  [*]28 (Warrington's Own Buses) - subject to Warrington Borough Council

typo here as says the 28 is Wigan - Warrington but its Leigh to Warrington, could mean the 22A

There is a few like that on the official document like 56 Manchester to Rochdale, which is strange as that service will be long gone before October anyways.

I think it because they done it as the local authorities that the route travel through

RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - Pulsar2 - 05/08/2022 15:07

(04/08/2022 15:40)SF07 Wrote:  Some details about the number of services that are being proposed to be withdrawn in October 2022. This is being put down to the withdrawal of government funding to help bus services during the Covid pandemic. They are mainly First and Stagecoach service with some from others, such as Diamond and Transdev. Several services are being put out to tender, which may mean the current operator will continue to run the service on behalf of TfGM.

Deregistered and put out to tender:
  • 1/2 Wigan (Stagecoach)
  • 6 Rochdale (First)
  • 7 Stockport (Stagecoach)
  • 11A (Stagecoach)
  • 81 (First)
  • 103 (Stagecoach)
  • 150 (Stagecoach)
  • 180 (First)
  • 181/182 (First)
  • 237 (Stagecoach) - final awarded option subject to Derbyshire County Council
  • 313 (Stagecoach)
  • 328 (Stagecoach)
  • 358 (Stagecoach) - final awarded option subject to Derbyshire County Council
  • 378/379 (Stagecoach)
  • 480 (Transdev)
  • 507 (Diamond)
  • 511 (Diamond)
  • 533 (Diamond)
  • 571/572 (Diamond)
  • 597 (Diamond)
  • 635 (Diamond)
  • X50 (Stagecoach)

Deregistered and direct award:
  • 5/5A (Warrington's Own Buses) - subject to Warrington Borough Council
  • 28 (Warrington's Own Buses) - subject to Warrington Borough Council
  • 42B (Stagecoach) - part
  • 56 (Stagecoach)
  • 322 (Stagecoach)
  • R3 (Transdev)

Deregistered and no action taken:
  • 108 (Stagecoach) - only runs weekday mornings
  • X58 (Stagecoach) - route mostly covered by service 256
  • X84 (First) - route mostly covered by services 84 and 350

Frequency reductions/journeys withdrawn
  • 3/4 Wigan (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 5/6 Wigan (Stagecoach) - Evenings and early mornings deregistered - direct award
  • 9 Wigan (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 10 Manchester (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 10/10A Wigan (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 11 (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 21/22 (Diamond) - Evening frequency reduced - direct award
  • 23 (Stagecoach) - Early mornings deregistered - direct award
  • 59 (First) - Frequency reduced - no action
  • 147 (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - no action
  • 197 (Stagecoach) - Early mornings deregistered - direct award
  • 245 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 250 (Stagecoach) - Sunday frequency reduced - direct award
  • 247 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 253/255 (Stagecoach) - Peak frequency reduction - direct award
  • 256 (Stagecoach) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 263 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 314 (Stagecoach) - Evenings deregistered and frequency reduction - direct award
  • 350 (First) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 352 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 360 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 368 (Stagecoach) - Sundays deregistered and frequency reduced - direct award (Sundays may be tendered)
  • 375/395 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 383/384 (Stagecoach) - Evenings deregistered - direct award
  • 425 (First) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 534 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award
  • 541 (Arriva) - Frequency reduced - direct award

Route curtailments
  • 8 (Diamond) - terminates at St Marys Gate instead of Shudehill
  • 20 (Diamond)
  • 85A (Stagecoach)

https://democracy.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/documents/s22177/GMTC%2020220812%20Bus%20Network%20Review.pdf
what does direct award mean. ?

RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - knutstransport - 05/08/2022 15:52

(05/08/2022 15:07)Pulsar2 Wrote:  what does direct award mean. ?

If it's the same as rail franchises it means the existing operator keeps the contract but the terms of the contract are revised.

RE: Greater Manchester Service Changes - knutstransport - 05/08/2022 15:56

(04/08/2022 16:13)Mikeonthebuses Wrote:  The 8 curtailment to St Mary's Gate will just kill this long-running service. As it currently provides excellent connections to Megabus, Metrolink and Other Local Services. It a bad decision by whoever suggested it.

Does it reduce the number of vehicles required?

Maybe the choice was truncate the service or reduce the frequency?