[Archive] Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[RedPanda]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
1316 Liverpool Lime st-Manchester Airport was cancelled due to a problem at the depot. 1740 Manchester Airport-Liverpool Lime st was due to operate but didn't because the replacement was slower than the normal allocation of a 319.

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
A slower diesel really wouldn't lose too much time over a electric , if that was the excuse then that is a feeble excuse for a cancellation , at best skipping some stops would have sorted that out .

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
From TfGM:

19:00 Manchester Airport-Barrow in Furness changes from a 3 car Class
185 to a 3 car Northern unit with a resulting increase in available capacity

The following services will remain as 4 carriage workings but see a slight
decrease in available capacity due to the formation of train units used:
07:57 Wigan NW – Victoria
08:21 Blackpool North – Huddersfield
08:44 Victoria – Southport
10:23 Southport – Manchester Airport
11:15 Huddersfield – Wigan Wallgate
12:03 Manchester Airport – Southport
13:45 Wigan Wallgate – Stalybridge
14:23 Southport – Manchester Airport
15:08 Stalybridge – Victoria
16:03 Manchester Airport – Southport
16:11 Victoria – Stalybridge
16:30 Stalybridge – Wigan Wallgate
18:15 Southport – Manchester Airport
18:24 Wigan Wallgate – Victoria
19:35 Victoria – Wigan Wallgate
20:03 Manchester Airport – Southport
22:18 Southport – Manchester Piccadilly

The following train services which previously ran as 4 car units will now run
as 2 carriage:
03:38 Lime Street – Manchester Airport
04:34 Manchester Airport – Lime Street
06:36 Victoria-Leeds
18:14 Victoria – Wigan NW
19:03 Wigan NW – Lime Street

The above are a direct result of the TPE 170s leaving and going to Chiltern with Northern needing to find replacements for the 185s used on North West routes.

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Does northern at this present have a three car units at its disposal , other than attaching a 153 to something ?

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(17/06/2016 11:16)wirralbus Wrote:  Does northern at this present have a three car units at its disposal , other than attaching a 153 to something ?

They have the 8 x 3 car 158s mainly used on Calder Valley services but it's understood the Barrow working will be either a 150+153 or a 156+153.

[RedPanda]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(17/06/2016 09:17)wirralbus Wrote:  A slower diesel really wouldn't lose too much time over a electric , if that was the excuse then that is a feeble excuse for a cancellation , at best skipping some stops would have sorted that out .

Have to say that it's poor cancelling so many services along that line. An operator might find it cheaper if they don't run a service over not stopping at some stations.

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
I think a cancelled service will incur bigger charges than a service which skips stops out to make time up.

In the old days it used to be a part cancellation would equal a quarter of a cancellation , don't know if this still applies .

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Network rail now say it will be the 24th June before services can resume between Buxton and Stockport , this is now becoming a serious washout

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(17/06/2016 15:13)wirralbus Wrote:  Network rail now say it will be the 24th June before services can resume between Buxton and Stockport , this is now becoming a serious washout

Start of service on the 25th June is now the latest for the line to reopen

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Overhead Wires around St Helens are playing up meaning some Trains are cancelled and others are delayed