TransPennine Express

[Gordon V]

RE: First Transpennine Express

(16/03/2016 20:18)wirralbus Wrote:  So its not just the Class 319's that can cause disruption on services into and out of Liverpool , this morning a class 185 decided it was not operating beyond St Helens Junction , having to be rescued by another class 185 which then couldn't remove its errant partner . All in all it took about 3 hours to sort .

The unit that failed was on the 0616 from York to Liverpool , the unit that would have formed the 0812 Liverpool - Newcastle was the assisting unit , this service restarted at York with a new unit.

185115 was the unit that failed,the assisting unit went wrong way from Huyton to St Helens Junction to couple to the front then as stated above further problems developed so the assisting unit had the passengers transferred onto it which then ran to Huyton to get the passengers to there to change onto Northern to Lime St,the assisting unit then went back to the failed unit and with assistance from a fitter from Ardwick depot the units coupled up and ran ECS to Ardwick after crossing over at Huyton,all in all the failure/line being blocked lasted from approximately 0750-1135

[RedPanda]

RE: First Transpennine Express

(16/03/2016 20:31)Gordon V Wrote:  185115 was the unit that failed,the assisting unit went wrong way from Huyton to St Helens Junction to couple to the front then as stated above further problems developed so the assisting unit had the passengers transferred onto it which then ran to Huyton to get the passengers to there to change onto Northern to Lime St,the assisting unit then went back to the failed unit and with assistance from a fitter from Ardwick depot the units coupled up and ran ECS to Ardwick after crossing over at Huyton,all in all the failure/line being blocked lasted from approximately 0750-1135

Anybody know who operated the replacement buses? I saw two Hattons buses displaying contract hire rather than rail replacement

[Gordon V]

RE: First Transpennine Express

(17/03/2016 09:00)RedPanda Wrote:  Anybody know who operated the replacement buses? I saw two Hattons buses displaying contract hire rather than rail replacement

Springfield coaches operated at least one of the replacements towards Huyton

[507022]

RE: First Transpennine Express
I wondered why a 185 was heading eastwards showing "out of service" around that time

[wirralbus]

RE: First Transpennine Express
This is the probably something your going to get quite a bit on the chat moss route with units following each other that cant remove each other out of the way .

[knutstransport]

RE: First Transpennine Express

(18/03/2016 16:19)wirralbus Wrote:  This is the probably something your going to get quite a bit on the chat moss route with units following each other that cant remove each other out of the way .

Longer term we'll see:

New CAF trains:
Lime Street to Leeds via Chat Moss and Calder Valley
Chester to Leeds via Chat Moss and Calder Valley
Manchester Airport to Cumbria via Wigan

319s:
Lime Street to Airport (all stops)
Lime Street to Warrington Bank Quay
Lime Street to Wigan
Lime Street to Blackpool

New TPE non-electric trains:
Lime Street to Edinburgh via York
Lime Street to Scarborough

New TPE electric trains:
Lime Street to Glasgow (infrequent service)

Less of a mixture than at present given there's currently 142s, 150s, 156s, 175s, 185s, 319s, 350s and occasional ATW 158s and loco-hauled.

[childwallblues]

RE: First Transpennine Express
Rumours abound that loco + stock haulage will be brought in to cover shortages on Anglo Scottish services with Class 68 the favourite.

[knutstransport]

RE: First Transpennine Express

(29/03/2016 07:39)childwallblues Wrote:  Rumours abound that loco + stock haulage will be brought in to cover shortages on Anglo Scottish services with Class 68 the favourite.

I heard the plan was to take on the soon to be off-lease Pretendolino set, split it in to two and haul the two sets using 68s on Liverpool-Newcastle services, freeing up 2 x 185s to replace 170s on South TPE. Then one of the current TPE North West diagrams (which will transfer to Northern) will get Sprinters instead of 185s to free up a third 185, so that 3 x 185s replace 4 x 170s.

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: First Transpennine Express

(20/03/2016 14:43)knutstransport Wrote:  Longer term we'll see:

New CAF trains:
Lime Street to Leeds via Chat Moss and Calder Valley
Chester to Leeds via Chat Moss and Calder Valley
Manchester Airport to Cumbria via Wigan

319s:
Lime Street to Airport (all stops)
Lime Street to Warrington Bank Quay
Lime Street to Wigan
Lime Street to Blackpool

New TPE non-electric trains:
Lime Street to Edinburgh via York
Lime Street to Scarborough

New TPE electric trains:
Lime Street to Glasgow (infrequent service)

Less of a mixture than at present given there's currently 142s, 150s, 156s, 175s, 185s, 319s, 350s and occasional ATW 158s and loco-hauled.

Yes, but at least four of those types (142/150/156 and 158) can assist each other.

SD.

[knutstransport]

RE: First Transpennine Express
Contracts on the new trains are apparently being signed today with an announcement at Manchester Piccadilly platform 12 on Friday morning with a Desiro in the new livery arriving at platform 12 at around 08:45.