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Traveline displaying timetables for end of July, which allows to see some of the changes taking place. The significant changes are in Oldham and Rochdale:

149 - Evening and Sunday service between Oldham and Manchester taken over by Stagecoach. Oldham-Alt section covered by re-routed 425.
425 - Evening and Sunday journeys re-routed via Alt, replacing service 149
451/452 - Withdrawn and partly replaced by services 58, 181, 182 and 462.
455 - Monday-Saturday daytime service replaced by service 456. Evening/Sunday journeys taken over by S&S Travel and Rosso
456 - Service extended to Stubley via Littleborough and increased to every half hour
462 - Re-routed in Milnrow via Kiln Lane, Hursted Road, Smith Hill, St James Street, Wellington Street and Albert Street, replacing services 451/452.
469 - Service re-numbered 468 and re-routed via Cutgate
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(02/07/2014 20:31)SF07 Wrote:  Traveline displaying timetables for end of July, which allows to see some of the changes taking place. The significant changes are in Oldham and Rochdale:

149 - Evening and Sunday service between Oldham and Manchester taken over by Stagecoach. Oldham-Alt section covered by re-routed 425.
425 - Evening and Sunday journeys re-routed via Alt, replacing service 149
451/452 - Withdrawn and partly replaced by services 58, 181, 182 and 462.
455 - Monday-Saturday daytime service replaced by service 456. Evening/Sunday journeys taken over by S&S Travel and Rosso
456 - Service extended to Stubley via Littleborough and increased to every half hour
462 - Re-routed in Milnrow via Kiln Lane, Hursted Road, Smith Hill, St James Street, Wellington Street and Albert Street, replacing services 451/452.
469 - Service re-numbered 468 and re-routed via Cutgate

not entirely accurate i believe 451/2 /462 this only applies to m-s daytime journeys eve and sundays are staying same i believe if you read report on tfgm bus commitee report from april (not sure on others though)
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All will become clear and further information will be available when papers for the next meeting of the TFGM Bus Networks and TfFM services committee are online just before 25 July:

http://www.transportforgreatermanchester...e_201415/2
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Evening 149/181/182s are to be diverted tomorrow (4/7) night from 20:00-05:00 Saturday due to the closure Northbound of A663 Broadway in Chadderton, diversions will be as follows:

149 Piccadilly-Alt: Nortmal route to Whitegate Lane then back onto normal route on Thompson Lane, this service will not be operating via Eaves Lane

181/182 Piccadilly-Rochdale: Normal route to Whitegate Lane then right onto Whitegate Lane and left onto Eaves Lane and right back onto Broadway
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(02/07/2014 20:31)SF07 Wrote:  Traveline displaying timetables for end of July, which allows to see some of the changes taking place. The significant changes are in Oldham and Rochdale:

149 - Evening and Sunday service between Oldham and Manchester taken over by Stagecoach. Oldham-Alt section covered by re-routed 425.
425 - Evening and Sunday journeys re-routed via Alt, replacing service 149
451/452 - Withdrawn and partly replaced by services 58, 181, 182 and 462.
455 - Monday-Saturday daytime service replaced by service 456. Evening/Sunday journeys taken over by S&S Travel and Rosso
456 - Service extended to Stubley via Littleborough and increased to every half hour
462 - Re-routed in Milnrow via Kiln Lane, Hursted Road, Smith Hill, St James Street, Wellington Street and Albert Street, replacing services 451/452.
469 - Service re-numbered 468 and re-routed via Cutgate

An interesting attack on Stagecoach with the 425. I assume First care not happy about Stagecoach getting comfy by operating services in the Oldham area.

I do not understand the 455/456 changes, extended to Stubley? that would be a massive backtrack for people living there getting to Rochdale even though servive 458 operates directly. I assume it is for people getting into Littleborough

It is a shame First have thrown the towel in on the 469 journeys onwards from Jericho. Its a long standing route and they have allowed a council owned operator to push them off. They are now competing on route 468, but I think Rosso will fight back strongly against them, the First advantage of bypassing the hospital didn't work on route 469 so why would it change on this route? First should have increased the 469 frequency beyond Jericho years ago and launched route 468 before Rosso tried it a few years back, they would have easily taken on services 461/476 as they were back in the day.

I assume TFGM cancelled funding for services 451/452. It is a shame because people will now have to make a connection in Rochdale to connect Milnrow and Hollingworth, adding a huge amount of time on the journey. But so long as bankers can get to their cars nice and dry on routes 1, 2 and 3 then people in other parts of Greater Manchester will have to walk.
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(02/07/2014 20:31)SF07 Wrote:  Traveline displaying timetables for end of July, which allows to see some of the changes taking place. The significant changes are in Oldham and Rochdale:

149 - Evening and Sunday service between Oldham and Manchester taken over by Stagecoach. Oldham-Alt section covered by re-routed 425.
425 - Evening and Sunday journeys re-routed via Alt, replacing service 149
451/452 - Withdrawn and partly replaced by services 58, 181, 182 and 462.
455 - Monday-Saturday daytime service replaced by service 456. Evening/Sunday journeys taken over by S&S Travel and Rosso
456 - Service extended to Stubley via Littleborough and increased to every half hour
462 - Re-routed in Milnrow via Kiln Lane, Hursted Road, Smith Hill, St James Street, Wellington Street and Albert Street, replacing services 451/452.
469 - Service re-numbered 468 and re-routed via Cutgate

There's a potential for Stagecoach 149 to interwork with the 78.
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Guessing there's a been a swap between Oldham and Tameside depots, as 37437 was operating on the 184 yesterday with 'On hire to First Manchester Ltd' in the front window, while a Enviro400 was operating a late evening journey on the 350.
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(06/07/2014 10:33)SF07 Wrote:  Guessing there's a been a swap between Oldham and Tameside depots, as 37437 was operating on the 184 yesterday with 'On hire to First Manchester Ltd' in the front window, while a Enviro400 was operating a late evening journey on the 350.
37437 is on loan to om for the short term as om cover one of the boards on 348/350s now so pr sent them a bus to cover which explains both of these
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Not sure how or why but just spotted 53150 travelling down Mottram Moore towards Glossop on a 387. It was being driven by a lady and thier was a good load of passengers on board. I'm presuming she was lost.
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Oldham Road in Ashton fully reopened this morning in both directions as the road works were finished ahead of schedule. There seemed to be a lot of confusion espically on the 409's inbound towards Ashton. Some were continuing to follow the diversion while others were going straight down Oldham Rd into Ashton.
419's are still running over Crowhill with 41's still only serving Dukinfield. Presumably it will be down to TFGM to decide if and when the 41 and 419 will revert back to normal. Although a lot of Crowhill residents seem to have the impression it will continue as it is now for good.
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