Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

[gilbert]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(23/05/2014 16:00)Dentonian Wrote:  Surely, all depots make money - its a basic requirement of the 1985 Transport Act. FTR, Whilst the legal address is Daw Bank, the de facto HQ is Hyde Road. Not that that means the pride of the fleet passes their window - albeit 17245 was on an all day 201/3 working today, and probably more comfortable tham my bus home (19394) on which I felt every pot hole. But to illustrate the point, both these buses are Daw Bank rejects (lol).

I got 19390 today which struggled up every hill [even small ones] and didn't sound too healthy on the flat bits either.

[acocker96]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(23/05/2014 17:09)gilbert Wrote:  I got 19390 today which struggled up every hill [even small ones] and didn't sound too healthy on the flat bits either.

are you a driver?

[gilbert]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(23/05/2014 18:00)acocker96 Wrote:  are you a driver?

No.

[acocker96]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(23/05/2014 18:20)gilbert Wrote:  No.

how do you mean you 'had' the bus?

[H101GEV (Administrator)]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
In terms of money making, what about Sharston? This depot has the lion's share of Stagecoach interest on the Wilmslow Road corridor including the major 42/43 services and the majority of Magic Bus duties. There are some other busy services in the form of the 85/86 and 1XX routes.

[mbonwick]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
Yes, all depots make money - all that myself and Kuyoyo have said is that Stockport probbably makes the most money.

I can't comment on why the Solos were swapped, but I suspect the poor profit of Middleton routes had something to do with it - i.e. under the Stagecoach way of accounting, those routes couldn't justify such new vehicles.

[Wright Eclipse]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(23/05/2014 18:31)Dentonian Wrote:  A bit presumptive, unless you have figures to prove it. Yes, the 11 & 325 are probably money spinners - even if they cope with 40 seaters! 23/23A & 368/9 probably do their bit. 322/7 used to quielty contribute more than they were given credit for, although it probably would have been better if the 327 was just a peak hour extra on top of a 30 minute 322.
But what else is there? The 192 is clearly overbussed except at College times; 378 doesn't need 'deckers based on my sightings, and most other well loaded 'deckers services (203 & 330) in the town are not actually run by Stockport.

Another route i think will contribute is the 378 Wilmslow - yes its only hourly but seems to carry decent loadings when ive used it,plus im guessing the Minibus network makes more money than meets the eye

(23/05/2014 20:26)Dentonian Wrote:  Note also that when Bluebird had the Solo SRs (which I assume are the ones referred to), they were principally for use on tendered service 173. On transfer to Stockport, they are primarily used on commercial (daytime, at least) 309/310.

well it makes perfect sence to me,use the newer buses on the services that make more money!,Another thing is if stockport was "just wanting the newer buses" as some people say wouldnt they have swapped PE51 YHG/M For the 2 solos not the 07regs? Plus Stockport hasnt had a large amount of new buses for a 2 years now (execpt the GBF Funded E400Hs) plus the ALX300s need replacing,ok they could go down the Firstbus route & make them DDA (Infact i think some areas have actully done this over the years).

[acocker96]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(23/05/2014 21:06)Wright Eclipse Wrote:  Another route i think will contribute is the 378 Wilmslow - yes its only hourly but seems to carry decent loadings when ive used it,plus im guessing the Minibus network makes more money than meets the eye


well it makes perfect sence to me,use the newer buses on the services that make more money!,Another thing is if stockport was "just wanting the newer buses" as some people say wouldnt they have swapped PE51 YHG/M For the 2 solos not the 07regs? Plus Stockport hasnt had a large amount of new buses for a 2 years now (execpt the GBF Funded E400Hs) plus the ALX300s need replacing,ok they could go down the Firstbus route & make them DDA (Infact i think some areas have actully done this over the years).

would they only need that yellow tape put on edges of steps as the older MAN's already have two wheelchair spaces?

[Wright Eclipse]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(23/05/2014 21:25)acocker96 Wrote:  would they only need that yellow tape put on edges of steps as the older MAN's already have two wheelchair spaces?

they might need New Ramps fitted & updated Destination fitted

[acocker96]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(23/05/2014 21:40)Wright Eclipse Wrote:  they might need New Ramps fitted & updated Destination fitted

when I've been on some of Ashton's E20Ds on the 183 theyre wheelchair space on the left is very tight to manoeuvre a wheelchair or pram into because of a pole in the middle which could also be a problem