Merseyrail Rail Replacement Buses

[YN05 WKE]

RE: Merseyrail Rail Replacement Buses
Enviro400's on Rails today I believe

[Barney]

RE: Merseyrail Rail Replacement Buses

(09/02/2014 17:18)E208 WBG Wrote:  Enviro400's on Rails today I believe

I pity the poor folk who will have to endure the best part of two hours on one of these between Southport and Sandhills at this time of the year. I have travelled on this fleet many times both when it was based at LS and more recently Bootle and I have NEVER known the saloon heaters to be switched on. Having said that, the cab heater seems to be so effective that the drivers are often seen driving in short-sleeved shirts even though the outside temperature may be hovering at freezing point.

It will be interesting to see if there are any complaints from train commuters regarding the lack of heating on these vehicles.

Slightly off subject, do the refurbished Sapphire Enviro400 at Wrexham have effective saloon heaters?

[MPTE1955]

RE: Merseyrail Rail Replacement Buses
I am used to travelling on the Enviro400's on 60/61 every day, can't really complain about them being cold, certainly never noticed them being particularly cold.

[YN05 WKE]

RE: Merseyrail Rail Replacement Buses
When they where at Birkenhead they where always warm

[Bevan Price]

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(08/02/2014 20:08)sth77 Wrote:  I noted the following working the rails today 4001, 4026, 4079, 4097, 4175,4180, 4181, 4210, 4213, 4214, 4215, 4216

4420 was also seen in the afternoon, and I think 4000 may also have been present (but as this was viewed through damp windows on 4214, I could be mistaken)

[MPTE1955]

RE: Merseyrail Rail Replacement Buses
4420 was on 161/61's this morning so must have got swapped.

[Raawwwrrr!]

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The heating problem with the Enviro 400's is a big problem on the upper deck as due to the design, there is literally holes in the floor which lead to the outside of the bus designed to flush water (or any other fluid that might be present on the floor of the upper deck seating area) from the vehicle.

It lets fluid out, it lets the cold in.

[H101GEV (Administrator)]

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(09/02/2014 20:16)E208 WBG Wrote:  When they where at Birkenhead they where always warm

That isn't true at all. I rode on them regularly during their time at Birkenhead and I don't think I even once had a warm upper deck in all their time there. Since the transfer to Bootle, there has been a slight improvement in upper deck heat, but several are still cold.

The heating problem is chronic on these buses, particularly upstairs, and as Barney says, I don't envy the Southport line passengers much today.

As for 4420, the post refers to Saturday's allocations, not today's. 4000 probably was in use too as it's parked in Liverline today from photos on Flickr.

[gka472l]

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(09/02/2014 20:25)Bevan Price Wrote:  

(08/02/2014 20:08)sth77 Wrote:  I noted the following working the rails today 4001, 4026, 4079, 4097, 4175,4180, 4181, 4210, 4213, 4214, 4215, 4216

4420 was also seen in the afternoon, and I think 4000 may also have been present (but as this was viewed through damp windows on 4214, I could be mistaken)

4000 was in Liverline this afternoon (photo taken about 1425ish), along with most of the ex London exiles, managed to get a shot of them lined up http://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/12412227534/

HTH

[MPTE1955]

RE: Merseyrail Rail Replacement Buses
Nice photo's as always, just had a quick look at the photo of the darts and see 7669 NFS, wonder if this in now withdrawn. Off topic slightly I know.