Merseyrail

[MX12CFE]

RE: Merseyrail

(14/11/2013 15:54)wirralbus Wrote:  6 Car Ormskirk services at 1610 , 1725 and 1840 from Liverpool to Ormskirk are 3 Car services tonight .

Saw this displayed on the board at maghull yesterday evening do merseyrail have a shortage of units at the moment?

[H101GEV (Administrator)]

RE: Merseyrail
There was a line problem yesterday afternoon on the Ormskirk line which probably prevented the 6 car from forming. This pair is formed by running a 3 car ECS from Kirkdale to Ormskirk to couple with a service train, and couldn't do so with the line blocked.

[MX12CFE]

RE: Merseyrail

(15/11/2013 08:28)507009 Wrote:  There was a line problem yesterday afternoon on the Ormskirk line which probably prevented the 6 car from forming. This pair is formed by running a 3 car ECS from Kirkdale to Ormskirk to couple with a service train, and couldn't do so with the line blocked.

Ah right thanks for that have seen that 6 car coupling up at ormskirk a few times.

[wirralbus]

RE: Merseyrail

(15/11/2013 12:04)MX12CFE Wrote:  

(15/11/2013 08:28)507009 Wrote:  There was a line problem yesterday afternoon on the Ormskirk line which probably prevented the 6 car from forming. This pair is formed by running a 3 car ECS from Kirkdale to Ormskirk to couple with a service train, and couldn't do so with the line blocked.

Ah right thanks for that have seen that 6 car coupling up at ormskirk a few times.

Is there a reason for the train coupling up at Ormskirk , rather than at the Liverpool end of the route .

[jtd508110]

RE: Merseyrail
This evenings West Kirby 6 car formation is another pair of consecutively numbered units. 508136 and 508137. Don't think I've ever seen these 2 run together before!

[Merseyrail 507/508]

RE: Merseyrail

(15/11/2013 12:26)wirralbus Wrote:  

(15/11/2013 12:04)MX12CFE Wrote:  

(15/11/2013 08:28)507009 Wrote:  There was a line problem yesterday afternoon on the Ormskirk line which probably prevented the 6 car from forming. This pair is formed by running a 3 car ECS from Kirkdale to Ormskirk to couple with a service train, and couldn't do so with the line blocked.

Ah right thanks for that have seen that 6 car coupling up at ormskirk a few times.

Is there a reason for the train coupling up at Ormskirk , rather than at the Liverpool end of the route .

Not enough turnaround time usually a minimum of 5 minutes required to couple and prep cabs.

[LVC]

RE: Merseyrail

(15/11/2013 20:02)Merseyrail 507/508 Wrote:  

(15/11/2013 12:26)wirralbus Wrote:  

(15/11/2013 12:04)MX12CFE Wrote:  Ah right thanks for that have seen that 6 car coupling up at ormskirk a few times.

Is there a reason for the train coupling up at Ormskirk , rather than at the Liverpool end of the route .

Not enough turnaround time usually a minimum of 5 minutes required to couple and prep cabs.

I believe it was actually a coupler fault on 508124, units would not couple at Ormskirk

[Cheshire Lines Committee]

RE: Merseyrail
When a coupler fault occurs is there something stopping them from running two three cars, 7 and a half minutes apart?

[ls1911]

RE: Merseyrail

(16/11/2013 06:21)Cheshire Lines Committee Wrote:  When a coupler fault occurs is there something stopping them from running two three cars, 7 and a half minutes apart?

Traincrew for both units and paths for a start

[wirralbus]

RE: Merseyrail

(15/11/2013 20:02)Merseyrail 507/508 Wrote:  

(15/11/2013 12:26)wirralbus Wrote:  

(15/11/2013 12:04)MX12CFE Wrote:  Ah right thanks for that have seen that 6 car coupling up at ormskirk a few times.

Is there a reason for the train coupling up at Ormskirk , rather than at the Liverpool end of the route .

Not enough turnaround time usually a minimum of 5 minutes required to couple and prep cabs.

I have seen this in the morning where a three replaces a six car and the six car just goes into the reverser at Liv Cen and follows the service train out to Kirkdale . Is the 1535 from Orm a busy service ?