TransPennine Express

[childwallblues]

RE: First Transpennine Express
Four (I think) Class 185s are to be stabled at Allerton TMD from the December timetable change.

[WidnesRuncornBus]

RE: First Transpennine Express

(28/07/2013 09:25)childwallblues Wrote:  

(18/07/2013 22:26)WidnesRuncornBus Wrote:  I understand that the 2 car units would be used on Hull services or have 2 2 car units coupled together.

Having visited the Trans Pennine Express depot at Ardwick on Friday I asked the question about 2 and 4 car trains. Non starter as far as they are concerned.

Just getting back to you tnere about the 2 and 4 car 185s, it was only a rumour from a freind who had heard somthing from Ardwick. I personally couldn't see it myself but at the same time I didn't rule it out.

[wirralbus]

RE: First Transpennine Express
I have heard rumours also that the Scarborough service will not be a Transpennine service when the line is electrified as this will be added to the Blackpool - York service .

Some how it does seem that Scarborough is getting the rough end of the stick , Scarborough Tourism Authorities must be very bewildered indeed at the idea of losing there servicefrom the Manchester area to be replaced by a service from there arch tourist enemy Blackpool.

[WidnesRuncornBus]

RE: First Transpennine Express

(01/08/2013 14:59)wirralbus Wrote:  I have heard rumours also that the Scarborough service will not be a Transpennine service when the line is electrified as this will be added to the Blackpool - York service .

Some how it does seem that Scarborough is getting the rough end of the stick , Scarborough Tourism Authorities must be very bewildered indeed at the idea of losing there servicefrom the Manchester area to be replaced by a service from there arch tourist enemy Blackpool.

Wasn't expecting that! I imagine it would be very controversial, that will probably have a knock on effect for Scarborough as a whole.

[First Class]

RE: First Transpennine Express
The TPE services from Liverpool (should) be going to Newcastle and should be worked by Class 350 EMUs.

Would rather have a Newcastle service than Scarborough!

[wirralbus]

RE: First Transpennine Express
Think TPE will need to invest in a lot more 350's , you do wonder by then whether there will be something better on the market .

[childwallblues]

RE: First Transpennine Express
Services are turning a full circle.
Services from Liverpool were traditionally to Newcastle and Hull until the 1980s when Scarborough replaced Hull. The Scarborough service was diverted for a time to Llandudno but had reverted to Liverpool by the early nineties. Before all Liverpool services went to Scarborough there was a through service from Blackpool North.
Anyway no town/city has a god given right to have a service to x or y. Just think of the destinations lost to Liverpool over the last thirty years - Hull, Newcastle (except for an early morning train), Sunderland, Penzance, Plymouth, Portsmouth. Dover, Reading, Glasgow, Edinburgh, York via Halifax, Wakefield via Huddersfield, Morecambe, Heysham Harbour, South Wales to name but some.

[WidnesRuncornBus]

RE: First Transpennine Express
Presumably the once a day Liverpool - Middlesbrough service will be operated by Class 185 as thd Teesside Valley line is not yet electrified, that is if the service isn't getting scrapped? (Which I here it maybe).

[wirralbus]

RE: First Transpennine Express
You will probably find that the entire transpennine service will look completely different after electrification of the main service .

[WidnesRuncornBus]

RE: First Transpennine Express

(02/08/2013 10:54)wirralbus Wrote:  You will probably find that the entire transpennine service will look completely different after electrification of the main service .

Shame, I quite like the way it was structured. I dont like it when operators mess around with there services and mess up routine to the extent FTPE are going to when its already working (to a extent). But I surpose its for the best.