VOSA Bus Registration Search

[MTL0201]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search

(19/06/2012 14:25)buses7675 Wrote:  Route 30 (Saughall Massie - Liverpool, Sir Thomas Street) seems a new one - I wonder is it a way of getting buses into Liverpool in service (to go onto other routes) instead of running them over here empty?

Can't see it with the 30 regesterd as Monday to Saturday, & the 210/250 being Evening & Sunday services.

[M113 YKC]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search

(19/06/2012 14:37)MTL0201 Wrote:  

(19/06/2012 14:25)buses7675 Wrote:  Route 30 (Saughall Massie - Liverpool, Sir Thomas Street) seems a new one - I wonder is it a way of getting buses into Liverpool in service (to go onto other routes) instead of running them over here empty?

Can't see it with the 30 regesterd as Monday to Saturday, & the 210/250 being Evening & Sunday services.

Buses might do the 30 during the daytime on Mondays to Saturdays, and then do the 130/210/250 during the evening. The 130/210/250 start too early on Sundays, which makes sense - no 30 runs on Sundays!

[moreton407]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search
Wonder what route it might take?

[MX12CFE]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search

(19/06/2012 14:16)St Helens Rider Wrote:  PC1101681/22 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between New Brighton and West Kirby given service number 39 effective from 12-Aug-2012. To amend Timetable.

PC1101681/23 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Liverpool City Centre
Finish Point: Maghull, Ashworth Hospital
Via:
Service Number: 210
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 12-AUG-2012
Other Details: Daily.

PC1101681/24 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Old Roan
Finish Point: Dingle
Via:
Service Number: 130
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 12-AUG-2012
Other Details: Daily.

PC1101681/25 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Saughall Massie
Finish Point: Liverpool, Sir Thomas Street
Via:
Service Number: 30
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 12-AUG-2012
Other Details: Mondays to Saturdays.

Have impera got the 250 as well?

[First Class]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search
A real backward step for the 130/210.

From what I can find, they have a tiny, aged fleet.

Do they even have enough buses? Wiki suggests they have 7 low floor vehicles, the newest of which date from 1999.

[V671 DVU]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search
They have far more than that, take a look at their fleetlist. http://dartslf.com/fleetlists/impera/

[First Class]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search

(20/06/2012 15:02)V671 DVU Wrote:  They have far more than that, take a look at their fleetlist. http://dartslf.com/fleetlists/impera/

Whilst slightly better outlook after reading their fleetlist (and disregarding wiki!!), it is still disheartening to see that Impera's newest bus is 10 years old.

Merseytravel always fail to see that the 130/210/241/250 series of routes can be full and standing on a Sunday, especially due to match days, lack of an Arriva service and the frequency of Stagecoach routes.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search
PC0001141/92 - ARRIVA MERSEYSIDE LTD, 73 ORMSKIRK ROAD, LIVERPOOL, L9 5AE
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between St Helens Bus Station and Wigan Bus Station given service number 320/620 effective from 22-Jul-2012. To amend Timetable.

[Nicholas]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search

(20/06/2012 15:10)First Class Wrote:  Whilst slightly better outlook after reading their fleetlist (and disregarding wiki!!), it is still disheartening to see that Impera's newest bus is 10 years old.

Oh come on, they're a new company! You should be giving them credit to see they are expanding.

Newer buses come with time, once they're making enough of a profit. Unlike the big groups or other established operators, they've not got the capital to splash out on new buses.

[First Class]

RE: VOSA Bus Registration Search

(20/06/2012 16:42)Nicholas Wrote:  

(20/06/2012 15:10)First Class Wrote:  Whilst slightly better outlook after reading their fleetlist (and disregarding wiki!!), it is still disheartening to see that Impera's newest bus is 10 years old.

Oh come on, they're a new company! You should be giving them credit to see they are expanding.

Newer buses come with time, once they're making enough of a profit. Unlike the big groups or other established operators, they've not got the capital to splash out on new buses.

Unfortunately I remain skeptical, especially after Supertravel dissapeared from the 130/210 routes...

Merseytravel should not be allowing 10 year old, small sized buses on their contracts, regardless of who the operator is.

My other concern with Impera is the fact they are Wirral based. Delays/congestion on the Wirral (especially around the tunnel), suddenly start affecting the North & South Liverpool suburbs adversely. Impera need to have a bus up at Old Roan ready for a 1806 weekday departure, yet it needs to go through heavy tunnel traffic, congestion down County Rd/Walton Road, Black Bull etc. Easily need to allow an hour from the tunnel entrance to Old Roan... If it interworks first, then delays are compounded further.

The 130/210/241/250 has changed hands so many times! CMT, GTL, Stagecoach, Arriva, Supertravel, Cumfybus, Impera!
(Arriva still do the morning 250)