Stagecoach Manchester and Wigan

[Benzo]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(08/11/2012 18:08)james Wrote:  

(06/11/2012 23:07)Mayneway Wrote:  

(06/11/2012 22:42)Benzo Wrote:  Seen a Stockport MAN 22228 (I think) doing a 216. Are Stockport doing few workings on that route again?

Stockport have two buses on the 216 Monday - Saturday until the Metrolink work is completed. Its normally two MAN's that are used but the odd Enviro 400 has been used from ST on a Saturday.

on the 216 subject was a nice change to see a stockport enviro 300 36108 ???i think it was on 216`s nice to see a x reg man and a enviro up each others ass on the same service at the lights outside ashton baths today

Dont forget that it could had been on the 7 or 317

[ace]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(08/11/2012 21:49)Mayneway Wrote:  

(08/11/2012 21:00)ace Wrote:  

(08/11/2012 20:05)SF07 Wrote:  Have only seen MANs being used on the 183, so would say that they are the regular vehicle on the route.

I've only seen MAN's on the 183 as well, on the few occasions I have seen it. I thought 33174 was supposed to have been transferred especially for that route, but it seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth as I haven't seen it since it left Stockport. Does anyone know what it is doing these days? Not that I'm particularly missing it though

That's why I ask
I saw 33174 going up Oldham Rd towards Oldham on Monday afternoon, presumably to do driver changeover, so it's still knocking about, but mainly as a taxi bus.

Same being said about the 2 Tridents at AZ, they only ever seem to be on staff taxi duties, mainly going too and from Glossop for driver changeovers on the 390, I did see a glimpse of one in service during half term, coming down penny meadow with a handful of passengers on board but the driver had already changed the board to 'not in service'.

Talking of the 390, when does this service actually run? According to the timetable on the website it doesn't run on Saturdays. It clearly states it doesn't run Sunday or Bank Holidays which is understandable, but says nothing at all about Saturdays.

[Mayneway]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(08/11/2012 23:03)ace Wrote:  

(08/11/2012 21:49)Mayneway Wrote:  

(08/11/2012 21:00)ace Wrote:  I've only seen MAN's on the 183 as well, on the few occasions I have seen it. I thought 33174 was supposed to have been transferred especially for that route, but it seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth as I haven't seen it since it left Stockport. Does anyone know what it is doing these days? Not that I'm particularly missing it though

That's why I ask
I saw 33174 going up Oldham Rd towards Oldham on Monday afternoon, presumably to do driver changeover, so it's still knocking about, but mainly as a taxi bus.

Same being said about the 2 Tridents at AZ, they only ever seem to be on staff taxi duties, mainly going too and from Glossop for driver changeovers on the 390, I did see a glimpse of one in service during half term, coming down penny meadow with a handful of passengers on board but the driver had already changed the board to 'not in service'.

Talking of the 390, when does this service actually run? According to the timetable on the website it doesn't run on Saturdays. It clearly states it doesn't run Sunday or Bank Holidays which is understandable, but says nothing at all about Saturdays.

It runs Monday to Saturday, not sure why the Saturday timetable isn;t listed but it certainly does run Saturday, and of course the regular Solo is back up in Glossop on a Sunday being used on the 202.

[ace]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(08/11/2012 23:57)Mayneway Wrote:  

(08/11/2012 23:03)ace Wrote:  

(08/11/2012 21:49)Mayneway Wrote:  That's why I ask
I saw 33174 going up Oldham Rd towards Oldham on Monday afternoon, presumably to do driver changeover, so it's still knocking about, but mainly as a taxi bus.

Same being said about the 2 Tridents at AZ, they only ever seem to be on staff taxi duties, mainly going too and from Glossop for driver changeovers on the 390, I did see a glimpse of one in service during half term, coming down penny meadow with a handful of passengers on board but the driver had already changed the board to 'not in service'.

Talking of the 390, when does this service actually run? According to the timetable on the website it doesn't run on Saturdays. It clearly states it doesn't run Sunday or Bank Holidays which is understandable, but says nothing at all about Saturdays.

It runs Monday to Saturday, not sure why the Saturday timetable isn;t listed but it certainly does run Saturday, and of course the regular Solo is back up in Glossop on a Sunday being used on the 202.

The regular Solo being 47559 presumably, though I have seen 47622 on the 202 recently on Sundays.

[Nicholas]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
390 is broadly same as the School Holiday timetable, just starting 60/90 minutes later (depending on direction)
http://www.derbysbus.info/times/timetabl...60327b.pdf

[Mayneway]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(09/11/2012 06:04)ace Wrote:  

(08/11/2012 23:57)Mayneway Wrote:  [quote='ace' pid='21737' dateline='1352415818']




It runs Monday to Saturday, not sure why the Saturday timetable isn;t listed but it certainly does run Saturday, and of course the regular Solo is back up in Glossop on a Sunday being used on the 202.

The regular Solo being 47559 presumably, though I have seen 47622 on the 202 recently on Sundays.

Correct 47559 is up there every day (when not broken). You will see both Solo's up there on a Sunday as the 202 is a two bus working until early evening.

[Metroline1511]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(05/11/2012 18:27)Southernsofty Wrote:  The Tridents now being released in London are owned by leasing companies, that's not to say S/C couldn't buy them if they wanted to but bear in mind that they are fairly 'Hammered' and there is not the same incentive for S/C to cascade these vehicles.
As a purist I am disappointed that S/C wil be acquiring Wright B7RLE & B9 from First, a pity they could not be moved out of Wigan before sale.

I noticed some being sold to Ensignbus, so the fact that they are leased would explain this. I would also have liked First to reshuffle their fleet and retain modern Volvo B7RLEs and B9TLs. Stagecoach will still have buses on order and spare buses once the E400Hs arrive for route 192. Maybe Stagecoach can arrange just to lease these vehicles from First for a few months?

[Metroline1511]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester

(07/11/2012 10:05)Mayneway Wrote:  

(07/11/2012 09:56)motormayhem Wrote:  If they aquire bluebird then i think JPT would be out the question due to the fact there is going to be no competition left the way stagecoach is taking over everyone as arriva in manchester is minority player so i would of thought it would of been ideal for arriva to of bought someone like bluebird,JPT or finglands but i dont know if im right but i think out the big 3 arriva are the least intrested in manchester.

If nothing else it certainly puts the pressure on JPT.
Interesting that rumours about stagecoach buying Bluebird were around a couple of years ago but nothing came of it, but it's a well known fact Bluebird have been struggling of late, so wonder if Stagecoach got the business for a song or is 2m a decent price?

I had heard about Bluebird being linked to Stagecoach before. If anything, I think JPT could sell out to Arriva as they have a few operations in central Manchester, albeit from the west side, and Stagecoach and First would be unlikely due to monopoly considerations.

I like Bluebird's fleet including MCVs and Solo SRs, so hope these can be retained for a while at least.

[SF07]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
I think the Bluebird takeover has been bandied around in the past but nothing really came of it. I think the surprising thing about the Bluebird/Stagecoach takeover was the timing, just 7 days after the First Wigan depot purchase. But then again, there wasn't a big gap from taking over the bus operations Mayne and Bullocks a few years ago.

Stagecoach will probably do the same with Bluebird and First Wigan depot that they did with Mayne and Bullocks and keep the majority of the fleet in place for the first few months while possibly bringing in some of their own fleet to help modernise things. Possibly vehicles like the Solos and Enviro200s. The Solo SRs will definitely stay and the MCV will probably do so too. Some of the older Darts will probably get moved out eventually, as they're showing a bit of wear and tear and might not help Stagecoach's image.

[SF07]

RE: Stagecoach Manchester
Picture on Flickr of a few MANs from Scotland bound for Manchester ready for use in Wigan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41987105@N06/8171819340/