Greater Manchester Service Changes

[SF07]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes

(03/09/2020 17:29)SF07 Wrote:  Some proposed changes from the upcoming GMCA Bus Committee meeting, including a new (and regular) bus link between Sheffield and Manchester plus changes to services in Bolton, Salford and North Manchester. Changes are from 25 October 2020 unless stated.

• 2/21/22 (Diamond): Service 2 between Bolton and intu Trafford Centre to be re-numbered back to 22. Additional journeys will run as service 21 between intu Trafford Centre and Clifton Junction via Eccles, Swinton and Pendlebury to form a 15 minute minute on the route between Trafford Centre and Pendlebury
• 20/68 (Diamond): Service 68 re-routed to run from Little Hulton to Bolton via Logistics North, St Helens Road, Hulton Lane and Deane Road instead of to Farnworth (part of Better Deal for Bus Users funding - also partly replacing services 551/553). Service re-numbered to 20.
• 27 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn. Route covered in parts by services 10, 29, 36, 37, 38, 52, 93, 97 and 98
• 29 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Boothstown and Salford Quays with evening journeys introduced. Service will partly replace service 553 between Boothstown and Walkden and service 73 between Swinton and Lancaster Road
• 65 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Eccles and Alder Forest via Patricroft. Ellesmere Park to be served by service 70
• 66 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Eccles and Prestwich, running via 484 route between Pendlebury and Prestwich, no longer serving Clifton Junction, which will be served by new service 21. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced
• 70 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Eccles and Salford Shopping Centre only but running daily including evenings, partly replacing services 65, 73, 74 and 75.
• 73 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn and partly replaced by services 29, 70 and 79.
• 74/75 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Irlams o'th' Heights and Stretford via Duchy Road instead of Eccles Old Road, extending from Salford Shopping Centre to Stretford via 79 route. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced.
• 79 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn and partly replaced by services 29 and 74/75
• 90 (Tyrers): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by services 66, 94 and 96
• 91 (Transdev Rosso): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by service 512
• 94 (Stotts): Proposed to be re-routed to run via Heywood Road, Whittaker Lane, Bury Old Road, St Margarets Road and Sandgate Road, partly replacing service 90
• 95 (TBC - currently Diamond): Sunday service proposed to be reduced to two-hourly but with evening journeys introduced
• 96 (Go North West): Proposed to be re-routed to run via Heys Road, Fairfax Road and Bury New Road (re-routed via Prestwich), partly replacing service 90 from 25 October 2020
• 113 (Stagecoach Lancs): Re-routed to serve Wigan Infirmary "(this change formalises the COVID-19 emergency timetable which has been in operation since early June) " from 1 October 2020
• 126/132 (Diamond): Early weekday mornings introduced, as part of Better Deal for Bus Users funding
• 335 (Stotts): Proposed to be re-routed to run via 345 loop around Denton, following the introduction of service 305 this week.
• 345 (Stagecoach): Proposed to terminate at Denton Crown Point instead of running a loop around Denton, which will be served by service 335.
• 397 (North Western): New Monday-Saturday daytime service between Hyde and Glossop via Hattersley, Mottram, Tintwistle and Hadfield
• 484 (Arriva): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by re-routed service 66
• 492 (Tyrers): New Monday-Saturday daytime service running between Bury and Pilsworth, providing a direct link between the two (service 92 runs evenings only)
• 512 (TBC - currently Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Bury and Farnworth only and to run via Ainsworth, Bradley Fold between Bury and Radcliffe, replacing service 91 and via Prestolee replacing service 557. Ringley Bridge will be served by service 513, while Farnworth-Royal Bolton Hospital is covered by services 22 and 501. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced from 25 October 2020
• 513 (TBC - currently Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run via Ringley Bridge, replacing service 512 but no longer servie Ringley Fold, which is served by re-routed service 557.
• 551/553 (Vision Bus): Not mentioned but changes to services 20 and 29 suggests these services will either be withdrawn or curtailed.
• 557 (Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Ringley Fold and Royal Bolton Hospital via Farnworth, partly replacing services 512 and 513 and only run during weekday off-peak period
• 576 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by service 575 (operator TBC) running between Bolton and Wigan via Old Lords Estate in Horwich instead of via Middlebrook.
• 584 (Diamond): The first weekday journey is withdrawn. TfGM looking for replacement.
• 607 (TBC - currently Hattons): Proposed to be re-routed to run as local service around Ashton-in-Makerfield, providing connections with services to Wigan
• 682 (Diamond): Service extended from Hag Fold to Tyldesley via Atherton and Shakerley replacing Diamond service 683 and Tyrers service 694
• 683 (Diamond): Service withdrawn and replaced by extended service 682
• 694 (Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Leigh and Tyldesley only with Shakerley served by service 682. Saturday journeys re-routed via Platts Fold Road, replacing service 597
• 715 (TBC - currently Warrington's Own Buses): Evening and Sunday service proposed to be re-routed to run between Bolton and Westhoughton only, in line with Diamond's Monday-Saturday daytime service.
• B3 (Transdev Rosso) and 494 (Tyrers): Service B3 will be taken over by Tyrers during Monday-Saturday daytime and re-numbered 494. Probable that Arriva's Sunday service will be re-numbered back to 494 too.
• X57 (Hulleys of Baslow): New daily commercial service between Sheffield and Manchester, running every two hours via Ladybower, Glossop and Hollingworth, only serving Hollingworth Gun Inn between Glossop and Manchester. Service includes late evening journeys on Fridays and Saturdays
  

https://democracy.greatermanchester-ca.g...rt%20A.pdf

Diamond Bus have confirmed some of the proposed changes on their website.

They will continue to operate services 29 (runs between Boothstown and MediaCityUK), 65, 66 (which extends to Prestwich), 70 (runs between Pendleton and Eccles), 74/75, 79 (runs between Pendleton and Stretford only) and 607 (runs local Ashton-in-Makerfield service).

They will continue to run the evening Wigan-Bolton service but as 575 not 576, along with some early morning journeys from Wigan or Blackrod to Bolton (perhaps taking on Arriva on the 575 route).

The 682/683 changes will see the two service replaced by service 583, providing a Monday-Saturday daytime service between Leigh, Westleigh, Atherton and Hag Fold in addition to the Monday-Saturday evening and Sunday daytime service. Monday-Saturday daytime journeys will continue from Hag Fold/Atherton to Tyldesley via Shakerley.

The 715 will be re-numbered to 520 but Diamond will no longer operate the evening service. They have also lost evening journeys on service 34 and journeys on services 630 and 695. Services 27 and 73 will no longer run.

https://www.diamondbuses.com/north-west/...e-updates/

[SF07]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes
The 34 evening service and the 95 Sunday daytime service will transfer from Diamond NW to Go North West from 25 October. Services re-timed with the 95 extended to Bury and an evening service introduced.

The 96 will be re-routed via Prestwich, replacing the withdrawn 90 service between Simister and Prestwich.

https://www.gonorthwest.co.uk/news-servi...e-changes/

[SF07]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes
Rosso reporting that the 512 will be taken over by Vision Bus from 25 October. Should imagine the 513 will also be taken over by Vision Bus.

https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/rosso/25-o...1-services

[AlexBus12]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes
There are some more quite major changes to routes in the Bolton and Wigan areas on the 25th https://democracy.greatermanchester-ca.g...rt%20A.pdf . TFGM officers acknowledged these are very last minute changes and apologised to the committee for such short notice changes on their tendered services.

[SF07]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes
Some of the changes have started to appear on TfGM's website....although, it's slowly appearing and a lot still missing. Two 129 services meant the description of the new one is added to the route of the current one.

• 8/593 (Vision Bus): Evening journeys on service 593 are replaced by service 8. Vision Bus will also run some early Sunday morning journeys
• 41A (Stotts/Stagecoach): Withdrawn and partly replaced by re-routed service 335 around Dukinfield and extended 389 service at Yew Tree Estate.
• 129 (Vision Bus): New service introduced between Farnworth and Higher Green via Little Hulton, Walkden, Boothstown, Tyldesley and Gin Pit, partly replacing services 551, 553 and 695.
• 335 (Stotts): Re-routed in Dukinfield to partly cover the withdrawal of service 41A and extended from Denton to Dane Bank, to replace the withdrawn service 305.
• 387 (Stotts): Service re-instated with slight re-routing between Stalybridge and Mottram and between Mottram and Hyde
• 396 and 419 (Stotts): Service 419 is withdrawn and partly replaced by re-routed service 396, which will run as normal between Ashton and Hollins Road then via 419 route to Middleton. Hollinwood, Failsworth and Newton Heath no longer served.
• 516 (Diamond/Vision Bus/Tyrers): Evening and Sunday journeys reduced to every two hours with Tyrers no longer operating the service to reduce the number of operators. Evening and Sunday journeys will be operated by Diamond or Vision Bus
• 551/553 (Vision Bus): Withdrawn and partly replaced by services 20, 29 and 129.
• 559 (Vision Bus): Service re-routed via Deane Church Lane and St Helens Road instead of Hulton Lane, which is served by service 20. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced, partly replacing service 551.
• 570 (Vision Bus): Re-routed in Morris Green, partly replacing service 553
• 583 (Diamond/Warrington's Own Buses): Evening and Sunday journeys re-routed to run direct between Leigh and Atherton to match Diamond's Monday-Saturday daytime route and extended to Shakerley.
• 584 (Diamond/Stagecoach/Tyrers/Vision Bus): Evening and Sunday journeys reduced to every two hours with Stagecoach and Tyrers no longer operating the service to reduce the number of operators. Evening and Sunday journeys will be operated by Diamond or Vision Bus
• 588 Leigh (Vision Bus): Evening and Sunday service introduced, running every 2 hours
• 595 (Vision Bus): Evening and Sunday service introduced, running every 2 hours, partly replacing service 583.
• 613 (Vision Bus): Evening and Sunday service introduced, running every 2 hours
• 638 (Vision Bus): Service withdrawn and partly replaced by services 113, 362 and 640/641
• 639 (Vision Bus): New daily service introduced, partly replacing services 607 and 640/641 running between Wigan and Worsley Hall via Poolstock and Pemberton.
• 640/641 (Vision Bus): Re-routed in Standish to serve St Wilfrids Road and Greenwood Road, replacing service 638. Re-routed between Gathurst and Wigan to run via Spring Lane, City Road, Ormskirk Road, Sherwood Drive, Montrose Road and Robin Park Road.
• 694 (Tyrers/Warrington's Own Buses): Evening and Sunday service introduced, running every 2 hours, operated by Warrington's Own Buses. Service will be re-numbered 594.
• 695 (Diamond): Withdrawn and partly replaced by services 129 and 594.
  

[Citibus]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes
nice summary as usual. i suppose the line 551/553 (Vision Bus): Withdrawn and partly replaced by services 20, 29 and 129 should also include 559 and 570 - lots of links lost in reality.

Strangely the 584 has always had numerous operators at the same period, operting tender journeys with seemingly no operator willing or able to win all the tendered journies. Im unsure why TfGM have different tenders for evenigns and sundays on that and the 516 but very few other routes.

I do wonder how the 594 (694) evening and sunday journeys will be promoted (nothing i guess). Daytime operator Tyrers are very unlikely to meniton on their buses about the enhancements and then the 2 hour frequency by Warrington's Own Buses will hardly be noticable to the general public. I hope its a success!

Will the new 129 have evening and sunday journeys to replace the 551 in part?

[Mayneway]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes

(13/10/2020 19:28)SF07 Wrote:  Some of the changes have started to appear on TfGM's website....although, it's slowly appearing and a lot still missing. Two 129 services meant the description of the new one is added to the route of the current one.

• 8/593 (Vision Bus): Evening journeys on service 593 are replaced by service 8. Vision Bus will also run some early Sunday morning journeys
• 41A (Stotts/Stagecoach): Withdrawn and partly replaced by re-routed service 335 around Dukinfield and extended 389 service at Yew Tree Estate.
• 129 (Vision Bus): New service introduced between Farnworth and Higher Green via Little Hulton, Walkden, Boothstown, Tyldesley and Gin Pit, partly replacing services 551, 553 and 695.
• 335 (Stotts): Re-routed in Dukinfield to partly cover the withdrawal of service 41A and extended from Denton to Dane Bank, to replace the withdrawn service 305.
• 387 (Stotts): Service re-instated with slight re-routing between Stalybridge and Mottram and between Mottram and Hyde
• 396 and 419 (Stotts): Service 419 is withdrawn and partly replaced by re-routed service 396, which will run as normal between Ashton and Hollins Road then via 419 route to Middleton. Hollinwood, Failsworth and Newton Heath no longer served.
• 516 (Diamond/Vision Bus/Tyrers): Evening and Sunday journeys reduced to every two hours with Tyrers no longer operating the service to reduce the number of operators. Evening and Sunday journeys will be operated by Diamond or Vision Bus
• 551/553 (Vision Bus): Withdrawn and partly replaced by services 20, 29 and 129.
• 559 (Vision Bus): Service re-routed via Deane Church Lane and St Helens Road instead of Hulton Lane, which is served by service 20. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced, partly replacing service 551.
• 570 (Vision Bus): Re-routed in Morris Green, partly replacing service 553
• 583 (Diamond/Warrington's Own Buses): Evening and Sunday journeys re-routed to run direct between Leigh and Atherton to match Diamond's Monday-Saturday daytime route and extended to Shakerley.
• 584 (Diamond/Stagecoach/Tyrers/Vision Bus): Evening and Sunday journeys reduced to every two hours with Stagecoach and Tyrers no longer operating the service to reduce the number of operators. Evening and Sunday journeys will be operated by Diamond or Vision Bus
• 588 Leigh (Vision Bus): Evening and Sunday service introduced, running every 2 hours
• 595 (Vision Bus): Evening and Sunday service introduced, running every 2 hours, partly replacing service 583.
• 613 (Vision Bus): Evening and Sunday service introduced, running every 2 hours
• 638 (Vision Bus): Service withdrawn and partly replaced by services 113, 362 and 640/641
• 639 (Vision Bus): New daily service introduced, partly replacing services 607 and 640/641 running between Wigan and Worsley Hall via Poolstock and Pemberton.
• 640/641 (Vision Bus): Re-routed in Standish to serve St Wilfrids Road and Greenwood Road, replacing service 638. Re-routed between Gathurst and Wigan to run via Spring Lane, City Road, Ormskirk Road, Sherwood Drive, Montrose Road and Robin Park Road.
• 694 (Tyrers/Warrington's Own Buses): Evening and Sunday service introduced, running every 2 hours, operated by Warrington's Own Buses. Service will be re-numbered 594.
• 695 (Diamond): Withdrawn and partly replaced by services 129 and 594.
  

Some major changes in Ashton also with the 41 being axed and the 387 being reinstated.
I think Stagecoach are really struggling to make the 389 pay hence the extension around Tennyson Avenue. Simplest solution would be to continue it to Hyde like it used to.

[joe_alker]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes
No, the 389 to Tennyson Ave is as a direct result of the 41A being axed.

[Mikeonthebuses]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes
396 will be still serving Newton Heath in evenings and Sundays it only Monday to Saturday daytime that are changing

[joe_alker]

RE: Greater Manchester service changes

(14/10/2020 20:48)Mikeonthebuses Wrote:  396 will be still serving Newton Heath in evenings and Sundays it only Monday to Saturday daytime that are changing

No it won't be because it never did service Newton Heath at those times - it terminates at Limehurst Farm evenings and Sundays.